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    Default Re: Amir Khan more dangerous then ever!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    All that video showed was a fighter with amazing heart and bollocks. Listen to the comms. I'm more than happy to be in a "minority" with the late great Manny Steward that DID NOT consider Khan a chump. Thanks.
    Amazing heart and bollocks? Looked more like a drunken sailor who was petrified and trying desperately to avoid getting KTFO. As for Manny Steward, no disrespect, but due to dementia during the last 5 years of his life, his analysis and commentary had totally deteriorated along with his health.
    I hope this helps.
    I'd listen to Manny Steward 25 years into dementia about boxing before I listened to you.

    Not insult intended in that.
    You say tomato,
    ‘n I say …… it correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    All that video showed was a fighter with amazing heart and bollocks. Listen to the comms. I'm more than happy to be in a "minority" with the late great Manny Steward that DID NOT consider Khan a chump. Thanks.
    Amazing heart and bollocks? Looked more like a drunken sailor who was petrified and trying desperately to avoid getting KTFO. As for Manny Steward, no disrespect, but due to dementia during the last 5 years of his life, his analysis and commentary had totally deteriorated along with his health.
    I hope this helps.
    I'd listen to Manny Steward 25 years into dementia about boxing before I listened to you.

    Not insult intended in that.
    As well you should, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts.

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    Khan is a master boxer, but that chin lets him down pity but true, he is not unlike a luxury house
    with something missing,! the front door maybe not just the finished article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Khan is a master boxer, but that chin lets him down pity but true, he is not unlike a luxury house
    with something missing
    ,! the front door maybe not just the finished article.
    More like an overrated/overhyped house that had a weak foundation, and faulty wiring, that sold for too much. The house got hit by a tornado (Prescott) weathered a few storms and held up quite well after that before getting it's doors blown in again.

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    Probably said it 100 times, Khan has great skills and could beat anyone in or around his weight. That chin or whatever it is will always be a high risk to let him down.

    He could move up and beat Ward, I still wouldn't be a fan. For not demanding a rematch with Prescott is unforgiveable in my eyes. Some fighters would have taken the fight for free if it meant getting the chance to put the record straight.

    Entertaining when he fights? yes but there's definitely something missing. He went out of his way to get the Peterson result overturned, before any drugs issue was out, it was all about the man in the hat. Shady dealings it did look like but where was the burning desire to put the record straight with his fists?. Maidana was worthy of a rematch but no chance that was going to happen.

    Why didn't he take peanuts to lure Garcia in to an immediate rematch? Khan has millions he could have made that money back by now.

    Fuck me even 'Dudey' looked only 1 big uppercut away from dropping Khan on his arse even if he was losing every round.

    I'm sure Khan can be a nice guy but the fact he didn't go back in against Prescott and the fact he refers to himself as 'amir khan' and not 'i' like us mere mortals would tells me all I need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Probably said it 100 times, Khan has great skills and could beat anyone in or around his weight. That chin or whatever it is will always be a high risk to let him down.

    He could move up and beat Ward, I still wouldn't be a fan. For not demanding a rematch with Prescott is unforgiveable in my eyes. Some fighters would have taken the fight for free if it meant getting the chance to put the record straight.

    Entertaining when he fights? yes but there's definitely something missing. He went out of his way to get the Peterson result overturned, before any drugs issue was out, it was all about the man in the hat. Shady dealings it did look like but where was the burning desire to put the record straight with his fists?. Maidana was worthy of a rematch but no chance that was going to happen.

    Why didn't he take peanuts to lure Garcia in to an immediate rematch? Khan has millions he could have made that money back by now.

    Fuck me even 'Dudey' looked only 1 big uppercut away from dropping Khan on his arse even if he was losing every round.

    I'm sure Khan can be a nice guy but the fact he didn't go back in against Prescott and the fact he refers to himself as 'amir khan' and not 'i' like us mere mortals would tells me all I need to know.
    I can see the point you make and specifically in Khans case it may have helped him when he was against the wall in future fights but they decided not to and as it turns out Prescott has turned out to me essentially a one hit wonder anyway.

    Benny Leonard was cold cocked in his first fight and his 12th and then once again in his 16th and 20th and he never rematched any of them except Flemming and he lost that fight also by decision.

    Henry Armstrong was laid out in his first fight and lost 2 of his next three but he never bothered to hunt down Al Lovino.

    Arguello was knocked out in his 5th fight and then lost to a guy he beat previously right after and he never did seek revenge over Amaya.

    Its a good point that the Prescott loss could be haunting him still and that a revenge match may have changed things but those above persevered in spite of early blow outs and went on to become legends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Probably said it 100 times, Khan has great skills and could beat anyone in or around his weight. That chin or whatever it is will always be a high risk to let him down.

    He could move up and beat Ward, I still wouldn't be a fan. For not demanding a rematch with Prescott is unforgiveable in my eyes. Some fighters would have taken the fight for free if it meant getting the chance to put the record straight.

    Entertaining when he fights? yes but there's definitely something missing. He went out of his way to get the Peterson result overturned, before any drugs issue was out, it was all about the man in the hat. Shady dealings it did look like but where was the burning desire to put the record straight with his fists?. Maidana was worthy of a rematch but no chance that was going to happen.

    Why didn't he take peanuts to lure Garcia in to an immediate rematch? Khan has millions he could have made that money back by now.

    Fuck me even 'Dudey' looked only 1 big uppercut away from dropping Khan on his arse even if he was losing every round.

    I'm sure Khan can be a nice guy but the fact he didn't go back in against Prescott and the fact he refers to himself as 'amir khan' and not 'i' like us mere mortals would tells me all I need to know.
    I can see the point you make and specifically in Khans case it may have helped him when he was against the wall in future fights but they decided not to and as it turns out Prescott has turned out to me essentially a one hit wonder anyway.

    Benny Leonard was cold cocked in his first fight and his 12th and then once again in his 16th and 20th and he never rematched any of them except Flemming and he lost that fight also by decision.

    Henry Armstrong was laid out in his first fight and lost 2 of his next three but he never bothered to hunt down Al Lovino.

    Arguello was knocked out in his 5th fight and then lost to a guy he beat previously right after and he never did seek revenge over Amaya.

    Its a good point that the Prescott loss could be haunting him still and that a revenge match may have changed things but those above persevered in spite of early blow outs and went on to become legends.
    I understand what you are saying and I'm not saying that i'm right or wrong, it's just my personal thoughts towards Khan.

    I know Prescott has turned out to be nothing special, I never actually expected him to be after the Khan fight. He just happened to be the first person who could finish Khan off once he had hurt him, Khan had already been hurt on numerous occasions just no one had capitilised on it. Khan was an olympic silver medallist who was telling everyone he could rule the world. No one knew what Prescott would go on to do but that shouldn't matter. He could have been a 15-20-5 journeyman. Either way Prescott continually shouted for him to take the opportunity. (for the payday i'm sure )

    Thanks for mentioning the other fighters who never went after their conquerers, it does in a way undermine my own views to some extent. The only difference being that these guys were fighting more often and against tough guys, and probably were not expected to achieve what they did. Khan rebuilds against guys much smaller, which long term can't help him out.

    As I said i'm not saying i'm right in my beliefs but the way Khan goes about things is not what I admire. I may be a bit harsh saying that no matter what he achieves i'll never be a fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Probably said it 100 times, Khan has great skills and could beat anyone in or around his weight. That chin or whatever it is will always be a high risk to let him down.

    He could move up and beat Ward, I still wouldn't be a fan. For not demanding a rematch with Prescott is unforgiveable in my eyes. Some fighters would have taken the fight for free if it meant getting the chance to put the record straight.

    Entertaining when he fights? yes but there's definitely something missing. He went out of his way to get the Peterson result overturned, before any drugs issue was out, it was all about the man in the hat. Shady dealings it did look like but where was the burning desire to put the record straight with his fists?. Maidana was worthy of a rematch but no chance that was going to happen.

    Why didn't he take peanuts to lure Garcia in to an immediate rematch? Khan has millions he could have made that money back by now.

    Fuck me even 'Dudey' looked only 1 big uppercut away from dropping Khan on his arse even if he was losing every round.

    I'm sure Khan can be a nice guy but the fact he didn't go back in against Prescott and the fact he refers to himself as 'amir khan' and not 'i' like us mere mortals would tells me all I need to know.
    I can see the point you make and specifically in Khans case it may have helped him when he was against the wall in future fights but they decided not to and as it turns out Prescott has turned out to me essentially a one hit wonder anyway.

    Benny Leonard was cold cocked in his first fight and his 12th and then once again in his 16th and 20th and he never rematched any of them except Flemming and he lost that fight also by decision.

    Henry Armstrong was laid out in his first fight and lost 2 of his next three but he never bothered to hunt down Al Lovino.

    Arguello was knocked out in his 5th fight and then lost to a guy he beat previously right after and he never did seek revenge over Amaya.

    Its a good point that the Prescott loss could be haunting him still and that a revenge match may have changed things but those above persevered in spite of early blow outs and went on to become legends.
    I understand what you are saying and I'm not saying that i'm right or wrong, it's just my personal thoughts towards Khan.

    I know Prescott has turned out to be nothing special, I never actually expected him to be after the Khan fight. He just happened to be the first person who could finish Khan off once he had hurt him, Khan had already been hurt on numerous occasions just no one had capitilised on it. Khan was an olympic silver medallist who was telling everyone he could rule the world. No one knew what Prescott would go on to do but that shouldn't matter. He could have been a 15-20-5 journeyman. Either way Prescott continually shouted for him to take the opportunity. (for the payday i'm sure )

    Thanks for mentioning the other fighters who never went after their conquerers, it does in a way undermine my own views to some extent. The only difference being that these guys were fighting more often and against tough guys, and probably were not expected to achieve what they did. Khan rebuilds against guys much smaller, which long term can't help him out.

    As I said i'm not saying i'm right in my beliefs but the way Khan goes about things is not what I admire. I may be a bit harsh saying that no matter what he achieves i'll never be a fan.
    True enough and another quality post.Losing a fight or 2 or 5 was not the end of a career. Perhaps whats lacking here is poverty. All 3 of the guys mentioned came out of squalor. Khan seems to come from a privileged back ground was put on a pedestal like Harrison and was probably and early millionaire. Celebrity trainers don't help either. Btw I'm no fan of Khan but if he could get his head on straight instead of surrounding himself with yes men and go back to the grind he could change things around. If I were him I'd go find me a trainer in East Philly or something who has trained for 50 years and nobody knows his name. I'd cancel his twitter and fb accounts and not allow the cameras into his camps. Complete and utter re-dedication to his craft.

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