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    Default Re: When David met Wlad..

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    So basically Haye never decapitated Wlad and therefore it was OK for big Wlad to pussyfoot around and not take any risks. It sounds like people bought the hype and are STILL sore about Haye underestimating the size of the task at hand. No is saying that Haye was not full of krap, but people are forgetting the reticence to engage from either Klitschko, inside or outside of the ring.
    With all due respect, I don't think the majority of boxing fans, outside Germany, enjoy Wladimir Klitschko's style. Although there is more to it than meets the eye, many people blame Wladimir's style as the reason he isn't accepted in the United States. Floyd Mayweather, who has a different style, has taken the same criticism, as has Andre Ward. It's the "reticence" you refer to, a defense-first style. However, his style was the same before and after the Haye fight. Fighting Haye didn't change Wladimir's game plan, nor should it have. As the age-old adage goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If Wladimir had been down many rounds and he didn't go for broke, he would be to blame for losing. However, he was ahead by the middle of the rounds. At that point, it was Haye who needed to step up, and he didn't deliver.

    The bottom line is that as @erics44 stated above, there were many boxing fans that thought to themselves, "finally, a challenger who is going to make Wlad go to deep place." The reason people felt that way is because Haye had talked loads of crap before the fight. People expected Haye to go after Wlad in a big way. These people were disappointed with Haye's fight. In my opinion, they have a right to be.

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    Default Re: When David met Wlad..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    So basically Haye never decapitated Wlad and therefore it was OK for big Wlad to pussyfoot around and not take any risks. It sounds like people bought the hype and are STILL sore about Haye underestimating the size of the task at hand. No is saying that Haye was not full of krap, but people are forgetting the reticence to engage from either Klitschko, inside or outside of the ring.
    With all due respect, I don't think the majority of boxing fans, outside Germany, enjoy Wladimir Klitschko's style. Although there is more to it than meets the eye, many people blame Wladimir's style as the reason he isn't accepted in the United States. Floyd Mayweather, who has a different style, has taken the same criticism, as has Andre Ward. It's the "reticence" you refer to, a defense-first style. However, his style was the same before and after the Haye fight. Fighting Haye didn't change Wladimir's game plan, nor should it have. As the age-old adage goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If Wladimir had been down many rounds and he didn't go for broke, he would be to blame for losing. However, he was ahead by the middle of the rounds. At that point, it was Haye who needed to step up, and he didn't deliver.

    The bottom line is that as @erics44 stated above, there were many boxing fans that thought to themselves, "finally, a challenger who is going to make Wlad go to deep place." The reason people felt that way is because Haye had talked loads of crap before the fight. People expected Haye to go after Wlad in a big way. These people were disappointed with Haye's fight. In my opinion, they have a right to be.
    the fans anger is mainly around the fact that they really wanted it to happen, if it was haye shouting out a more entertaining (accepted) HW champ in the same way then the whole episode would have passed now, everyone would have forgotten

    wlad made a lot of im gonna knock him out noises too as has vitali since, all that goes relatively unnoticed because noone really cares, they just want to see someone else as HW champ, anyone
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    Default Re: When David met Wlad..

    Beanz Wlad doesn't catch hell because he never pretended he was going to do anything other than what he always does. Did Wlad talk ungodly amounts of trash for 4 years? Did Wlad say he was going to decapitate Haye? Wlad was respectful & professional and he fought that fight no different than any other ergo the expectations of him doing anything else weren't there.

    Do you get how that works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    the fans anger is mainly around the fact that they really wanted it to happen, if it was haye shouting out a more entertaining (accepted) HW champ in the same way then the whole episode would have passed now, everyone would have forgotten

    wlad made a lot of im gonna knock him out noises too as has vitali since, all that goes relatively unnoticed because noone really cares, they just want to see someone else as HW champ, anyone
    Then quit watching until they've retired because nobody will beat them

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    Default Re: When David met Wlad..

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    the fans anger is mainly around the fact that they really wanted it to happen, if it was haye shouting out a more entertaining (accepted) HW champ in the same way then the whole episode would have passed now, everyone would have forgotten

    wlad made a lot of im gonna knock him out noises too as has vitali since, all that goes relatively unnoticed because noone really cares, they just want to see someone else as HW champ, anyone
    Then quit watching until they've retired because nobody will beat them
    im willing to keep watching in the hope that one day wlad will be blasted out just one more time

    im not that bothered either way if vitali retires or not, he's been a decent HW champ despite his reign being forgettable mainly due to the opposition
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