Jack Johnson vs Jack Dempsey

[imp]

Johnson wins, I've never rated Dempsey very highly.

I agree.

Also the comment about johnson holding back in the majority of fights is true. He could have been killed anytime as he was so hated in and out of the ring.

[Master]

It would have been interesting to see how Jack Johnson adjusted to the 12-15 rounds and standing in the corner, which Dempsey forgot to do, I am sure it would have actually been easier for him.

[IamInuit]

It would have been interesting to see how Jack Johnson adjusted to the 12-15 rounds and standing in the corner, which Dempsey forgot to do, I am sure it would have actually been easier for him.

Yup. He blew the Tunney fight and he was the one that asked for the new neutral corner rule.

[Master]

It would have been interesting to see how Jack Johnson adjusted to the 12-15 rounds and standing in the corner, which Dempsey forgot to do, I am sure it would have actually been easier for him.

Yup. He blew the Tunney fight and he was the one that asked for the new neutral corner rule.

LOL dumb move you would have thought he would have remembered!

What about a peak Dempsey v Tunney?

[Mr140]

I think Tunney can defeat any fighter in the early eras if it was 15 rounder he would of stopped Dempsey. Tunney was way ahead of his time think beats Johnson as well was a hell of a mover for his time.

[Master]

I think Tunney can defeat any fighter in the early eras if it was 15 rounder he would of stopped Dempsey. Tunney was way ahead of his time think beats Johnson as well was a hell of a mover for his time.

And yet he was nearly knocked out by an old Dempsey? What would have a prime version done.

[IamInuit]

It would have been interesting to see how Jack Johnson adjusted to the 12-15 rounds and standing in the corner, which Dempsey forgot to do, I am sure it would have actually been easier for him.

Yup. He blew the Tunney fight and he was the one that asked for the new neutral corner rule.

LOL dumb move you would have thought he would have remembered!

What about a peak Dempsey v Tunney?

Dempsey was arguably still at his peak I think @Master. He was actually favoured to win both fights at least by the betting stubs. I think the 20 foot ring did him in. Had that ring been a 16 footer history may have been written differently.

[Master]

It would have been interesting to see how Jack Johnson adjusted to the 12-15 rounds and standing in the corner, which Dempsey forgot to do, I am sure it would have actually been easier for him.

Yup. He blew the Tunney fight and he was the one that asked for the new neutral corner rule.

LOL dumb move you would have thought he would have remembered!

What about a peak Dempsey v Tunney?

Dempsey was arguably still at his peak I think @Master. He was actually favoured to win both fights at least by the betting stubs. I think the 20 foot ring did him in. Had that ring been a 16 footer history may have been written differently.

I do not think he was at his peak, he became married to a Hollywood actress, cared about his looks and became civilised. When he fought Tunney he was fighting once a year and was not the hungry fighter that destroyed Willard and Firpo.

[IamInuit]

It would have been interesting to see how Jack Johnson adjusted to the 12-15 rounds and standing in the corner, which Dempsey forgot to do, I am sure it would have actually been easier for him.

Yup. He blew the Tunney fight and he was the one that asked for the new neutral corner rule.

LOL dumb move you would have thought he would have remembered!

What about a peak Dempsey v Tunney?

Dempsey was arguably still at his peak I think @Master. He was actually favoured to win both fights at least by the betting stubs. I think the 20 foot ring did him in. Had that ring been a 16 footer history may have been written differently.

I do not think he was at his peak, he became married to a Hollywood actress, cared about his looks and became civilised. When he fought Tunney he was fighting once a year and was not the hungry fighter that destroyed Willard and Firpo.

Perhaps not but Willard and Firpo were no Gene Tunney.