Jack Johnson vs Jack Dempsey

[IamInuit]

It would have been interesting to see how Jack Johnson adjusted to the 12-15 rounds and standing in the corner, which Dempsey forgot to do, I am sure it would have actually been easier for him.

Yup. He blew the Tunney fight and he was the one that asked for the new neutral corner rule.

LOL dumb move you would have thought he would have remembered!

What about a peak Dempsey v Tunney?

Dempsey was arguably still at his peak I think @Master. He was actually favoured to win both fights at least by the betting stubs. I think the 20 foot ring did him in. Had that ring been a 16 footer history may have been written differently.

[Master]

It would have been interesting to see how Jack Johnson adjusted to the 12-15 rounds and standing in the corner, which Dempsey forgot to do, I am sure it would have actually been easier for him.

Yup. He blew the Tunney fight and he was the one that asked for the new neutral corner rule.

LOL dumb move you would have thought he would have remembered!

What about a peak Dempsey v Tunney?

Dempsey was arguably still at his peak I think @Master. He was actually favoured to win both fights at least by the betting stubs. I think the 20 foot ring did him in. Had that ring been a 16 footer history may have been written differently.

I do not think he was at his peak, he became married to a Hollywood actress, cared about his looks and became civilised. When he fought Tunney he was fighting once a year and was not the hungry fighter that destroyed Willard and Firpo.

[IamInuit]

It would have been interesting to see how Jack Johnson adjusted to the 12-15 rounds and standing in the corner, which Dempsey forgot to do, I am sure it would have actually been easier for him.

Yup. He blew the Tunney fight and he was the one that asked for the new neutral corner rule.

LOL dumb move you would have thought he would have remembered!

What about a peak Dempsey v Tunney?

Dempsey was arguably still at his peak I think @Master. He was actually favoured to win both fights at least by the betting stubs. I think the 20 foot ring did him in. Had that ring been a 16 footer history may have been written differently.

I do not think he was at his peak, he became married to a Hollywood actress, cared about his looks and became civilised. When he fought Tunney he was fighting once a year and was not the hungry fighter that destroyed Willard and Firpo.

Perhaps not but Willard and Firpo were no Gene Tunney.

[Master]

They were not that is true but if a younger Dempsey could get his hands on Tunney I am sure he would have finished him off.

[Mr140]

Master you forget Tunney almost finished Dempsey if it was more then 10 rounds he be out cold. Also forget that Tunney only fought once before the rematch with Dempsey was ending his career as well. I believe Tunney with his boxing skills and movement would of beat any fighter from 1910's to 1940s. He was way above his time form what i have seen of him his boxing skills were way ahead of the curve. I mean i didn't see anyone that could box and move like him from that early of a time period to be honest with you.

[Master]

Master you forget Tunney almost finished Dempsey if it was more then 10 rounds he be out cold. Also forget that Tunney only fought once before the rematch with Dempsey was ending his career as well. I believe Tunney with his boxing skills and movement would of beat any fighter from 1910's to 1940s. He was way above his time form what i have seen of him his boxing skills were way ahead of the curve. I mean i didn't see anyone that could box and move like him from that early of a time period to be honest with you.

Tunney was good but Joe Louis would have beaten him. Gene may have caused some problems but Joe would have found him in the end.

[IamInuit]

They were not that is true but if a younger Dempsey could get his hands on Tunney I am sure he would have finished him off.

Again I think it had to do with ring size and style. Still had Jack not stood over Tunney and went to the neutral corner immediately he would have that ko win and in that bigger ring.

Ps- Its 3am here and I got a terrible case of insomnia. I may have to put on a Ruiz fight.

[Master]

They were not that is true but if a younger Dempsey could get his hands on Tunney I am sure he would have finished him off.

Again I think it had to do with ring size and style. Still had Jack not stood over Tunney and went to the neutral corner immediately he would have that ko win and in that bigger ring.

Ps- Its 3am here and I got a terrible case of insomnia. I may have to put on a Ruiz fight.

Watching and thinking of Michael Moorer does it for me.