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Ok then, if white people are excluded from protection under hate crime laws, then yes... the laws are seriously flawed and people like Lyle have a right to be outraged. And yes again... lawmakers who make laws solely to pander for votes without the slightest concern for the people, are doing more harm than good. I have no issues with anything you said in your post.

Having said that, hate crimes and hate speech are serious issues in an already decaying society. Haters grab on to the Constitutional rights which again... were drafted back when society wasn't such a sick, rotten mess. It's so convenient to claim "free speech" when you're openly spewing hate and provoking violence against groups based on race or ethnicity.

Current lawmakers may not be the best people to have in charge of trying to right the wrongs in society... but something should be done, don't you think? You've seen my posts enough to know that I'm always in favor of doing something, even if that "something" later needs some tweaking. Doing anything is better than sitting around fretting while society continues to flush itself down the toilet.
As a white male this means dick but I really don't think hate speech is as big of an issue as the media reports. I personally encounter much more overt racism from blacks than anyone else and remember my wife's family is from East Texas. That being said punishing (ostracizing is cool though) for unpopular speech/beliefs is a slippery slope. Believing in freedom and personal liberties unfortunately means putting up with a nation's lowest common denominator.
Ditto, and it's something i'd 'prefer not to deal with at all.