Donaire vs. Rigondeaux - Saturday night fight/chat thread

[Dia bando]

Close fight had Donaire, winning by 2 rounds it was very close nothing to shout or scream about
well done Rigondeaux.

[BARNEYKX]

This was a walkover for Rigo he gave Donaire a boxing lesson and a schooling throughout the fight
Donaire could not really get into the fight at all

[THE THIRD MAN]

116- 111 Rigondeaux, Donaire just couldn't hit him enough and was somewhat pedestrian. Rigo was too slick and deserved the win, they will do it again and Donaire will have to think of something else in fight two?

[Mars_ax]

Close fight had Donaire, winning by 2 rounds it was very close nothing to shout or scream about
well done Rigondeaux.

@Dia bando - Agreed, unless you were a Rigon fan, it wasn't a very entertaining fight to watch, especially after all the hype this fight generated.

I don't know what Donaire could do different to win in a rematch, the bottom line is Rigon is good technically, and very hard to hit with clean punches.

cheers

[ykdadamaja]

Close fight had Donaire, winning by 2 rounds it was very close nothing to shout or scream about
well done Rigondeaux.

@Dia bando - Agreed, unless you were a Rigon fan, it wasn't a very entertaining fight to watch, especially after all the hype this fight generated.

I don't know what Donaire could do different to win in a rematch, the bottom line is Rigon is good technically, and very hard to hit with clean punches.

cheers

It was a good boxing match. Not too much fast-paced action, but we knew that coming in. What I was expecting was a sneaky counter-shot ko from Donaire somewhere in the 7,8 or 9th round. It didn't happen.

The reason why it didn't happen was that we UNDERESTIMATED the MOBILITY of Rigondeaux and his ability to move in and out fast and quickly. That type of movement was never there with him in his other fights, and it kind of surprised me.

You see? This is why it's hard to make a prediction in some of these fights unless you go to the respective training camps.

Donaire just could not catch the guy coming in, and Rigondeaux used the ring EFFECTIVELY and amped up just a little bit with regard to offense. That offensive style too was uncharacteristic of Rigondeaux.

Masterful fight by him. Hats off!!

[bigstinkybug]

*I had it 118-109... Nonito lost 11 rounds... Nonito looks like he undeestimated what Rigo could do... in the end, Nonito's face was a mess as well... anyone who has it for Nonito should be ashamed

[Master]

*I had it 118-109... Nonito lost 11 rounds... Nonito looks like he undeestimated what Rigo could do... in the end, Nonito's face was a mess as well... anyone who has it for Nonito should be ashamed

You are wrong and just because you write in red does not make you right.

[ray corso]

If your credentials are "Champion" then I demand "max effort ever time out"! Donaire for whatever reason came unprepared, I've lost respect for him and I could see he wasn't prepared before the bell had rung! Rigo on the other hand does "just enough" and when I see high skill levels that aren't maximized it puzzles me and I ask "why not perform at your MAX"?
Today you will rarely see a fighter exhausted at the end of a fight and you don't have to be hard pressed to get like that however you do need to give your BEST effort! Rigo could have stopped Donaire from the 9th round on, he saw it and refused to accelorate his offense. To me thats the main difference in the fighters from the 30s thru the 60s, they fought hard throughout a fight and gave a "max effort"!!!! Donaire never laid it out to try and over come his conditioning flaws and Rigo never laid it out to win in spectacular fashion. To be considered great thats what great fighters do, or atleast did!!!
Today everyone is a champion and fans think their favorite guy is great!!! Right now in boxing their are NOGreat fighters. Theres a few men who excell at certain facets of the game but theres no one who is THE package! Rigo is a Star, he just refuses to polish himself and try to Shine! Ray.

[Silkeyjoe]

If your credentials are "Champion" then I demand "max effort ever time out"! Donaire for whatever reason came unprepared, I've lost respect for him and I could see he wasn't prepared before the bell had rung! Rigo on the other hand does "just enough" and when I see high skill levels that aren't maximized it puzzles me and I ask "why not perform at your MAX"?
Today you will rarely see a fighter exhausted at the end of a fight and you don't have to be hard pressed to get like that however you do need to give your BEST effort! Rigo could have stopped Donaire from the 9th round on, he saw it and refused to accelorate his offense. To me thats the main difference in the fighters from the 30s thru the 60s, they fought hard throughout a fight and gave a "max effort"!!!! Donaire never laid it out to try and over come his conditioning flaws and Rigo never laid it out to win in spectacular fashion. To be considered great thats what great fighters do, or atleast did!!!
Today everyone is a champion and fans think their favorite guy is great!!! Right now in boxing their are NOGreat fighters. Theres a few men who excell at certain facets of the game but theres no one who is THE package! Rigo is a Star, he just refuses to polish himself and try to Shine! Ray.

We used to work 20 miles to school every day... in the snow. go and ask me bollox

[bigstinkybug]

*I had it 118-109... Nonito lost 11 rounds... Nonito looks like he undeestimated what Rigo could do... in the end, Nonito's face was a mess as well... anyone who has it for Nonito should be ashamed

You are wrong and just because you write in red does not make you right.

*I'M WRONG? Donaire lost 11 rounds.. if i'm wrong..ok, 117-110, but that's it. And honestly, i couldn't tell u which other round Donaire won other than the round he knocked Rigo down. This fight wasn't even close... and i read one guy posting he had 5 even rounds..c'mon..b a man, score the damn round.

and to those that say"Rigo threw no punches"..just look at Donaires face.

Although it wasn't entertaining to the average fan... to a boxing purest, it was extremily interesting. Two great fighter got in the ring and one totally dominated the other... if this fight had gone three more, Donaire wouldve been Ko'ed. i don't think so..i know so.

p.s look past the red...it's the content that u need to worry about.

[Andre]

The right man won.

[ray corso]

Thats "walk" not "work" moron!! What I forgot about boxing you'll never know!! If you don't understand talent and skill levels and the effort that needs to accompany those attributes just sit there and stay retarded! High standards means high reward and that comes from effort if you OP bigstinkybug (how juvenile is that) don't understand that or don't think its valid you don't understand competition!!
I notice your comments are about the members opinions and rarely about the methods & techniques used in the sport is that because you don't know shit about boxing or your just one of those jackoffs looking for an "internet fight"? damn kids!! Ray

[Silkeyjoe]

*I had it 118-109... Nonito lost 11 rounds... Nonito looks like he undeestimated what Rigo could do... in the end, Nonito's face was a mess as well... anyone who has it for Nonito should be ashamed

You are wrong and just because you write in red does not make you right.

*I'M WRONG? Donaire lost 11 rounds.. if i'm wrong..ok, 117-110, but that's it. And honestly, i couldn't tell u which other round Donaire won other than the round he knocked Rigo down. This fight wasn't even close... and i read one guy posting he had 5 even rounds..c'mon..b a man, score the damn round.

and to those that say"Rigo threw no punches"..just look at Donaires face.

Although it wasn't entertaining to the average fan... to a boxing purest, it was extremily interesting. Two great fighter got in the ring and one totally dominated the other... if this fight had gone three more, Donaire wouldve been Ko'ed. i don't think so..i know so.

p.s look past the red...it's the content that u need to worry about.

No way could you give round 5 to Rigo. You can't give a guy a round for good defence you need offence too. If a fighter throws 100 punches in a round and lands 10 clean versus a fighter who throws 10 and lands 10 I score it even. I always get criticised for scoring rounds even so I also score it if I had to pick a winner for each round. Either way I had this a close fight but had Rigo leading the hole fight pretty much. A lot of rounds could be scored either way and blinking at a certain time could suade one to score for a fighter rather then the other. I think this leads to poor decisions. Take for example manny v Marquez 3. Marquez was robbed by many people's accord but if you break the rounds down there were a lot if close rounds that could have gone either way, but the judges gave them all to manny. If these were scored even, which I think a few if them should have been, Marquez gets the W. I've seen people score a fight the same score but have 6 rounds scored differently and then give out about the judges scorecards because they had a different score to the 2 I them.

[Violent Demise]

A definition of Groupie from Webster:

"A groupie is a person who seeks emotional and sexual intimacy with a musician or other celebrity or public figure. The term groupie is derived from group, in reference to a musical group,[1] but the word is also used in a more general sense, especially in casual conversation, to mean a particular kind of female fan assumed to be more interested in sex with rock stars than in their music.[2]"

This is not even applicable in here, it's boxing, i am not female nor a Filipino so i don't know what you are talking about. I am voicing my opinion on what there for us to digest.

Donaire still has a better career as a loser than Rigo as a winner, Bradley will concur with me

Like I said. Groupie

How did you all have the fight, so far ive collected over 40 press scores who have a variety of scores.

I had it closer than man scoring for Rigondeaux 115-113

I had it 116-115 for Rigo. I scored 5 rounds even and if i had a gun to my head to pick a winner of each Id have the scores 114-113 to Rigo.

Doesn't surprise me that you can't score for shit.

*I had it 118-109... Nonito lost 11 rounds... Nonito looks like he undeestimated what Rigo could do... in the end, Nonito's face was a mess as well... anyone who has it for Nonito should be ashamed

You're right. Donaire did lose 11 rounds. And he barely won the one in which he scored the knock down. Cuz as soon Rigo got up he went back to controlling the fight

BTW your idea about the purses. It's retarded.

[mrbig1]

I had it 9-3 for Rigondeaux. I don't see Donaire wanting a rematch. He got his ass handed to him.