Donaire vs. Rigondeaux - Saturday night fight/chat thread

[ray corso]

If your credentials are "Champion" then I demand "max effort ever time out"! Donaire for whatever reason came unprepared, I've lost respect for him and I could see he wasn't prepared before the bell had rung! Rigo on the other hand does "just enough" and when I see high skill levels that aren't maximized it puzzles me and I ask "why not perform at your MAX"?
Today you will rarely see a fighter exhausted at the end of a fight and you don't have to be hard pressed to get like that however you do need to give your BEST effort! Rigo could have stopped Donaire from the 9th round on, he saw it and refused to accelorate his offense. To me thats the main difference in the fighters from the 30s thru the 60s, they fought hard throughout a fight and gave a "max effort"!!!! Donaire never laid it out to try and over come his conditioning flaws and Rigo never laid it out to win in spectacular fashion. To be considered great thats what great fighters do, or atleast did!!!
Today everyone is a champion and fans think their favorite guy is great!!! Right now in boxing their are NOGreat fighters. Theres a few men who excell at certain facets of the game but theres no one who is THE package! Rigo is a Star, he just refuses to polish himself and try to Shine! Ray.

[Silkeyjoe]

If your credentials are "Champion" then I demand "max effort ever time out"! Donaire for whatever reason came unprepared, I've lost respect for him and I could see he wasn't prepared before the bell had rung! Rigo on the other hand does "just enough" and when I see high skill levels that aren't maximized it puzzles me and I ask "why not perform at your MAX"?
Today you will rarely see a fighter exhausted at the end of a fight and you don't have to be hard pressed to get like that however you do need to give your BEST effort! Rigo could have stopped Donaire from the 9th round on, he saw it and refused to accelorate his offense. To me thats the main difference in the fighters from the 30s thru the 60s, they fought hard throughout a fight and gave a "max effort"!!!! Donaire never laid it out to try and over come his conditioning flaws and Rigo never laid it out to win in spectacular fashion. To be considered great thats what great fighters do, or atleast did!!!
Today everyone is a champion and fans think their favorite guy is great!!! Right now in boxing their are NOGreat fighters. Theres a few men who excell at certain facets of the game but theres no one who is THE package! Rigo is a Star, he just refuses to polish himself and try to Shine! Ray.

We used to work 20 miles to school every day... in the snow. go and ask me bollox

[bigstinkybug]

[QUOTE=Silkeyjoe;1147015]

If your credentials are "Champion" then I demand "max effort ever time out"! Donaire for whatever reason came unprepared, I've lost respect for him and I could see he wasn't prepared before the bell had rung! Rigo on the other hand does "just enough" and when I see high skill levels that aren't maximized it puzzles me and I ask "why not perform at your MAX"?
Today you will rarely see a fighter exhausted at the end of a fight and you don't have to be hard pressed to get like that however you do need to give your BEST effort! Rigo could have stopped Donaire from the 9th round on, he saw it and refused to accelorate his offense. To me thats the main difference in the fighters from the 30s thru the 60s, they fought hard throughout a fight and gave a "max effort"!!!! Donaire never laid it out to try and over come his conditioning flaws and Rigo never laid it out to win in spectacular fashion. To be considered great thats what great fighters do, or atleast did!!!
Today everyone is a champion and fans think their favorite guy is great!!! Right now in boxing their are NOGreat fighters. Theres a few men who excell at certain facets of the game but theres no one who is THE package! Rigo is a Star, he just refuses to polish himself and try to Shine! Ray.

*What they need to do is set some money aside... maybe 25% of the entire purse... the one who gets a ko gets that money as a bonus.

should there not be a knockout, then the money goes to "the boxing relief fund"..or "Boxers retirement fund" that doesn't exist BUT ,should be made.

the only fights that should be treated in this fashion r the purses that surpass 1 million... a smaller percentag, say.. 15% for $500k fights purses..ect,ect...

[Silkeyjoe]

[QUOTE=bigstinkybug;1147020]

If your credentials are "Champion" then I demand "max effort ever time out"! Donaire for whatever reason came unprepared, I've lost respect for him and I could see he wasn't prepared before the bell had rung! Rigo on the other hand does "just enough" and when I see high skill levels that aren't maximized it puzzles me and I ask "why not perform at your MAX"?
Today you will rarely see a fighter exhausted at the end of a fight and you don't have to be hard pressed to get like that however you do need to give your BEST effort! Rigo could have stopped Donaire from the 9th round on, he saw it and refused to accelorate his offense. To me thats the main difference in the fighters from the 30s thru the 60s, they fought hard throughout a fight and gave a "max effort"!!!! Donaire never laid it out to try and over come his conditioning flaws and Rigo never laid it out to win in spectacular fashion. To be considered great thats what great fighters do, or atleast did!!!
Today everyone is a champion and fans think their favorite guy is great!!! Right now in boxing their are NOGreat fighters. Theres a few men who excell at certain facets of the game but theres no one who is THE package! Rigo is a Star, he just refuses to polish himself and try to Shine! Ray.

*What they need to do is set some money aside... maybe 25% of the entire purse... the one who gets a ko gets that money as a bonus.

should there not be a knockout, then the money goes to "the boxing relief fund"..or "Boxers retirement fund" that doesn't exist BUT ,should be made.

the only fights that should be treated in this fashion r the purses that surpass 1 million... a smaller percentag, say.. 15% for $500k fights purses..ect,ect...

This is a retarded idea. Go follow MMA, you'll love it.

[bigstinkybug]

*What they need to do is set some money aside... maybe 25% of the entire purse... the one who gets a ko gets that money as a bonus.

should there not be a knockout, then the money goes to "the boxing relief fund"..or "Boxers retirement fund" that doesn't exist BUT ,should be made.

the only fights that should be treated in this fashion r the purses that surpass 1 million... a smaller percentag, say.. 15% for $500k fights purses..ect,ect...


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This is a retarded idea. Go follow MMA, you'll love it.[/QUOTE]

*lol... really..i thoght it was pretty good.. it creates an incentive to get the ko... and could give revenue to a much need relief fund for old boxers... did u know ,it's said that amatuers with 20 plus fights have very minimal brain damage..it's very minimal, but brain cells have died after just 20-30 amatuer fights...

i love MMA... it's awesome... but i'm a two time GG champion and in my day, sparred with world amatuer national champs- to pan american gold medalist to world champs... and could more than hold my own.. just saying.


p.s... i have ideas and i'm not afraid to put them out there.. don't b that guy that shoots down evey idea, and has none... anyway, just an opinion.

[Silkeyjoe]

*What they need to do is set some money aside... maybe 25% of the entire purse... the one who gets a ko gets that money as a bonus.

should there not be a knockout, then the money goes to "the boxing relief fund"..or "Boxers retirement fund" that doesn't exist BUT ,should be made.

the only fights that should be treated in this fashion r the purses that surpass 1 million... a smaller percentag, say.. 15% for $500k fights purses..ect,ect...

This is a retarded idea. Go follow MMA, you'll love it.[/QUOTE]

*lol... really..i thoght it was pretty good.. it creates an incentive to get the ko... and could give revenue to a much need relief fund for old boxers... did u know ,it's said that amatuers with 20 plus fights have very minimal brain damage..it's very minimal, but brain cells have died after just 20-30 amatuer fights...

i love MMA... it's awesome... but i'm a two time GG champion and in my day, sparred with world amatuer national champs- to pan american gold medalist to world champs... and could more than hold my own.. just saying.


p.s... i have ideas and i'm not afraid to put them out there.. don't b that guy that shoots down evey idea, and has none... anyway, just an opinion.



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I think it's a stupid idea because your punishing light handed fighters, poor Paulie couldn't make a living. Also may make fighters try too hard for the KO which can sometimes ruin fights.

I agree that 'retirement funds' are needed and I think it should come from the boxing federations cut of the purse, even I it meant them getting a slightly higher %.