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    Default Re: Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    You can try and say Alvarez hasn't fought anyone, but the version of Cotto, Trout fought, wasn't any better then the version of Mosley, Canelo fought. Point being, Trout's record and/or competition as a Jr. Middleweight isn't better then Canelo's.

    Canelo is young, strong, and he ain't a shot version of Cotto. Trout is going to have his hands full keeping the fully energized Alvarez off of him.
    I believe Alvarez wins a fair & square UD or takes Trout out in one of mid to late rounds.
    Basically what I was trying to say. You probably made your point better though.

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    Default Re: Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    You can try and say Alvarez hasn't fought anyone, but the version of Cotto, Trout fought, wasn't any better then the version of Mosley, Canelo fought. Point being, Trout's record and/or competition as a Jr. Middleweight isn't better then Canelo's.

    Canelo is young, strong, and he ain't a shot version of Cotto. Trout is going to have his hands full keeping the fully energized Alvarez off of him.
    I believe Alvarez wins a fair & square UD or takes Trout out in one of mid to late rounds.
    Basically what I was trying to say. You probably made your point better though.
    I shouldn't have said Cotto was "shot", but he looked nothing like the Cotto of old when he fought Trout, more like damaged goods. I don't mean that as an insult to Miguel, he'd been through some fucking wars and his heart just wasn't in the Trout fight.

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    Default Re: Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    You can try and say Alvarez hasn't fought anyone, but the version of Cotto, Trout fought, wasn't any better then the version of Mosley, Canelo fought. Point being, Trout's record and/or competition as a Jr. Middleweight isn't better then Canelo's.

    Canelo is young, strong, and he ain't a shot version of Cotto. Trout is going to have his hands full keeping the fully energized Alvarez off of him.
    I believe Alvarez wins a fair & square UD or takes Trout out in one of mid to late rounds.
    Basically what I was trying to say. You probably made your point better though.
    I shouldn't have said Cotto was "shot", but he looked nothing like the Cotto of old when he fought Trout, more like damaged goods. I don't mean that as an insult to Miguel, he'd been through some fucking wars and his heart just wasn't in the Trout fight.

    I agree with your assessment, Mars. Although Cotto lost both fights, the Cotto that lost to Floyd was sharp and on his game. Floyd was just better. Against Trout, however, Cotto looked a little listless. I don't know whether it's age (and wear and tear) finally catching up to him, or what. Cotto's been in some wars... and those will take their toll on any man.

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    Default Re: Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    You can try and say Alvarez hasn't fought anyone, but the version of Cotto, Trout fought, wasn't any better then the version of Mosley, Canelo fought. Point being, Trout's record and/or competition as a Jr. Middleweight isn't better then Canelo's.

    Canelo is young, strong, and he ain't a shot version of Cotto. Trout is going to have his hands full keeping the fully energized Alvarez off of him.
    I believe Alvarez wins a fair & square UD or takes Trout out in one of mid to late rounds.
    Basically what I was trying to say. You probably made your point better though.
    I shouldn't have said Cotto was "shot", but he looked nothing like the Cotto of old when he fought Trout, more like damaged goods. I don't mean that as an insult to Miguel, he'd been through some fucking wars and his heart just wasn't in the Trout fight.

    I agree with your assessment, Mars. Although Cotto lost both fights, the Cotto that lost to Floyd was sharp and on his game. Floyd was just better. Against Trout, however, Cotto looked a little listless. I don't know whether it's age (and wear and tear) finally catching up to him, or what. Cotto's been in some wars... and those will take their toll on any man.
    The Cotto who fought Floyd would have wiped the floor with Trout, like I said after losing to Floyd, Miguel's heart wasn't in the Trout fight, he looked to be going through the motions. If Trout looks convincing against Canelo, I may see things differently, but I see Alvarez handing him his first loss at the Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas. BTW, dumb move by Trout taking the fight there, his overconfidence will cost him dearly.

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    Default Re: Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    You can try and say Alvarez hasn't fought anyone, but the version of Cotto, Trout fought, wasn't any better then the version of Mosley, Canelo fought. Point being, Trout's record and/or competition as a Jr. Middleweight isn't better then Canelo's.

    Canelo is young, strong, and he ain't a shot version of Cotto. Trout is going to have his hands full keeping the fully energized Alvarez off of him.
    I believe Alvarez wins a fair & square UD or takes Trout out in one of mid to late rounds.
    Basically what I was trying to say. You probably made your point better though.
    I shouldn't have said Cotto was "shot", but he looked nothing like the Cotto of old when he fought Trout, more like damaged goods. I don't mean that as an insult to Miguel, he'd been through some fucking wars and his heart just wasn't in the Trout fight.

    I agree with your assessment, Mars. Although Cotto lost both fights, the Cotto that lost to Floyd was sharp and on his game. Floyd was just better. Against Trout, however, Cotto looked a little listless. I don't know whether it's age (and wear and tear) finally catching up to him, or what. Cotto's been in some wars... and those will take their toll on any man.
    The Cotto who fought Floyd would have wiped the floor with Trout, like I said after losing to Floyd, Miguel's heart wasn't in the Trout fight, he looked to be going through the motions. If Trout looks convincing against Canelo, I may see things differently, but I see Alvarez handing him his first loss at the Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas. BTW, dumb move by Trout taking the fight there, his overconfidence will cost him dearly.
    Trout is from Las Cruces, New Mexico so he's not too far from home. Canelo is the draw and the money man so Trout has to fight him wherever they say basically as long as its not Mexico.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

    A lot of knowledgeable boxing guys are taking Trout in this one with the consensus being his style is horrible for Alvarez. I also read today that Trout met with Sualimon and he was told it would be scored fairly. Stranger things have happened.

    Yesterday I met @NoDoubtTrout and had a talk, he is such a nice man. I promised him neutrality in ring official's decisions if the bout goes

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    Default Re: Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    A lot of knowledgeable boxing guys are taking Trout in this one with the consensus being his style is horrible for Alvarez. I also read today that Trout met with Sualimon and he was told it would be scored fairly. Stranger things have happened.

    Yesterday I met @NoDoubtTrout and had a talk, he is such a nice man. I promised him neutrality in ring official's decisions if the bout goes

    That is just plain weird. I mean its a unification fight. Did Alvarez meet with Mendoza?

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    Default Re: Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    A lot of knowledgeable boxing guys are taking Trout in this one with the consensus being his style is horrible for Alvarez. I also read today that Trout met with Sualimon and he was told it would be scored fairly. Stranger things have happened.

    Yesterday I met @NoDoubtTrout and had a talk, he is such a nice man. I promised him neutrality in ring official's decisions if the bout goes
    If Sulaiman said it it must be true.

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    Default Re: Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax;1147851

    I agree with your assessment, Mars. Although Cotto lost both fights, the Cotto that lost to Floyd was sharp and on his game. Floyd was just better. Against Trout, however, Cotto looked a little listless. I don't know whether it's age (and wear and tear) finally catching up to him, or what. Cotto's been in some wars... and those will take their toll on any man.[/QUOTE

    The Cotto who fought Floyd would have wiped the floor with Trout, like I said after losing to Floyd, Miguel's heart wasn't in the Trout fight, he looked to be going through the motions. If Trout looks convincing against Canelo, I may see things differently, but I see Alvarez handing him his first loss at the Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas. BTW, dumb move by Trout taking the fight there, his overconfidence will cost him dearly.
    Trout is from Las Cruces, New Mexico so he's not too far from home. Canelo is the draw and the money man so Trout has to fight him wherever they say basically as long as its not Mexico.
    Fair enough @Hulk, but how many fans do you think Austin will have at the Alamodome?

    Really though, although it will help, I don't believe Alvarez will need the home-field advantage, he's going to put a whoopin' on Austin regardless.

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