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    Default Re: I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

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    Sad state the heavy division is in when he's in the top ten, piss poor fighter who wouldn't have been anywhere near the top ten in the 90's.

    A light punching blown up cruiser puts him on his arse, put him in with Wlad or Vit now & get it over with. Haye would give him a good chinning also but the rest of this division is sub par at best imo.
    At the same stage of his career Ali had been dropped by Sonny Banks 191lb and Henry Cooper 185lb Then even when he had won the title he was dropped by Joe Frazier 205lb

    All smaller men than Cunningham. Does this make Alis chin shit? In fact had the little bitches from here been around back then what would you have said about Cassius Clay, knocked down by 2 small men and getting a gift decision against Doug Jones?
    So you are equating Tyson Fury with Muhammad Ali? That's really a fucked up viewpoint. I wasn't born when Clay/Ali was fighting in the 60's & this is one thing I will not do, try to predict history. I don't even do top 10 lists, h2h or p4p debates as they are fucking pointless (used to, but just waste's time that could be spent doing proper things, so don't now) but each to their own.

    I'm not a fan of Fury although he's improve some from his early days but most fighters do. I don't know if you are from UK (I am) or elsewhere but I've seen enough of him over numerous fights to know he's a piss poor fighter who's taken his size & reasonable power to get by in a era when the heavyweights are dire.

    Cunningham was decent cruiser but can you really say he has genuine heavyweight power, not for me. Fury has been rocked numerous times but his gangly size seems to get him by. Like I stated I would get him in with the Klit Bros or Haye & show him for what he is a hype job. Anyone decent with genuine power will beat him inside the distance.

    I will say one thing, although he is awful he can be entertaining in fights in freak show way. That's just my take, maybe I'll be proved wrong but I doubt it.
    Hold on...

    Cunningham doesnt have genuine heavyweight power?

    Would you say a 185lb Henry Copper had real heavyweight power?

    Or Joe Frazier who weighed 205lb (5lb less than a ripped Cunningham) had real heavyweight power? If Frazier fought today hed be in the cruiser division, just having to lose 5lb and he knocked down an undefeated Ali.

    In the 70's, Cunningham wouldnt have had a cruiser division and would have been a heavyweight and he would have been regarded as a big heavyweight too. How many heavyweights back then were as ripped as he was at 210lb?
    This small HW with not much power dropped a 6'9 Fury , the fact is, to anyone on here who isnt either called fury , or isnt bumming him , he got floored by a light puncher.
    So lets see him get in with a big puncher at HW , fury going down doesnt mean Cunnigham was a puncher , is reflects the fact fury has a dodgy chin.
    Hold on...

    Isnt Price supposed to be huge puncher?

    Well he has already fought and landed punches on Fury and this was a 17 year old inexperienced boy. Price was an experienced 22 year old man who was regularly fighting at international, world level.

    It was Price who got dropped in that fight, not Fury

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    Default Re: I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Isnt Price supposed to be huge puncher?

    Well he has already fought and landed punches on Fury and this was a 17 year old inexperienced boy. Price was an experienced 22 year old man who was regularly fighting at international, world level.

    It was Price who got dropped in that fight, not Fury
    Bigger gloves, headgear.....those COULD have played a part in Fury not getting knocked down and nobody is talking about Price's dodgey chin. Just because a sneeze makes David Price wobbly it doesn't make Fury's chin any great shakes.

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    Default Re: I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

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    Isnt Price supposed to be huge puncher?

    Well he has already fought and landed punches on Fury and this was a 17 year old inexperienced boy. Price was an experienced 22 year old man who was regularly fighting at international, world level.

    It was Price who got dropped in that fight, not Fury
    Bigger gloves, headgear.....those COULD have played a part in Fury not getting knocked down and nobody is talking about Price's dodgey chin. Just because a sneeze makes David Price wobbly it doesn't make Fury's chin any great shakes.
    Gloves are the same size. No im not comparing Prices waterford crystal to Furys chin but Price is supposedly a massive puncher but he couldnt dent Fury in their fight. Either Furys chin isnt as bad as people are saying or he didnt fight like a twat against Price. Either way it shows that against a big accurate puncher, hes not automatically going to be dropped.

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    Default Re: I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

    Tyson Fury has not had to pay much of a price for the mistakes he has made in his fights....eventually he will. Cunningham was also up on the cards when Fury stopped him....that doesn't bode well for his future. Sure you can say "Fury needed a KO and got it" but Tyson put himself in a bad situation vs a cruiserweight and my point is that fighters like Wladimir don't put themselves in bad positions, they put their opponents in bad positions.

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    It's not just about Fury's chin. He often punches with all the power of an anorexic with flu. He doesn't have the huge power he thinks he does. He takes forever against fighters that even a China eared Price would have blown out in minutes.

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    Default Re: I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    It's not just about Fury's chin. He often punches with all the power of an anorexic with flu. He doesn't have the huge power he thinks he does. He takes forever against fighters that even a China eared Price would have blown out in minutes.
    He just flattened someone who had never been stopped, Adamek had KO'd Travis Walker, Andrew Golota, Jonothan Banks, O'Neil Bell etc but he couldnt stop Cunningham.

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    Default Re: I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

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    It's not just about Fury's chin. He often punches with all the power of an anorexic with flu. He doesn't have the huge power he thinks he does. He takes forever against fighters that even a China eared Price would have blown out in minutes.
    He just flattened someone who had never been stopped, Adamek had KO'd Travis Walker, Andrew Golota, Jonothan Banks, O'Neil Bell etc but he couldnt stop Cunningham.
    .....yes, man that Tyson Fury certainly has some power. I've never seen a puncher like him ever.....unless you count Steve Cunningham whom as you know weighed over 200 pounds which means he could puncher harder than Jack Dempsey

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    Default Re: I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

    Fury KO'd Cunningham who had never been stopped. Wlad fought a chinny ex cruiserweight in Haye and didnt come close

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    Default Re: I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Fury KO'd Cunningham who had never been stopped. Wlad fought a chinny ex cruiserweight in Haye and didnt come close
    Nice Trolling

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    Default Re: I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Fury KO'd Cunningham who had never been stopped. Wlad fought a chinny ex cruiserweight in Haye and didnt come close
    Haye moved to HW holding all the CW title , he then wEnt unbeaten and won a version of the HW title , winning fights at HW by ko , he then ran from Wlad and lost on points.

    Cunnigham was never undisputed CW champ nor did he move up from CW a champion , nor did he hold a HW title , and as you seem to be blind to the fact he had 12 ko wins .

    So niether is Fury as big a puncher as Wlad , nor is Cunnigham even close to being as good or powerful as Haye.

    These are the facts of it all , you are either a kid or retarded or both.
    There is a chance you could be called Fury or bumming him as you are blind to the truth.


    FACT.

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