How DO we beat Mayweather?

[ykdadamaja]

I think one point out of all of this is to NOT be afraid of the speed and accuracy of his right hand.

That means come to Floyd with 3-4 shot combo's, because almost certainly when you hit him he is going to counter. (someone said work rate)

[El Kabong]

There are three guys who at any weight class I think would have been the downfall of Floyd #1 Tommy Hearns, he had power, a great delivery system, range, and he was athletic #2 Roberto Duran, very solid fighting on the inside, good pop on his punches, GREAT at the prefight mind games, solid chin, good at making fighters fight his style GRANTED a Leonard 2 kind of fight could occur with him, but for a big time, big money, 1st shot, I bet Duran would bring his A game and #3 Pernell 'Sweet Pea' Whittaker, defensive genius, fast hands, underrated and underused power, and also a master mind game player.

Floyd is an exceptional talent, I mean I didn't even put Ray Leonard in there because at this point in time its hard for me to say. Granted SRL was bigger and could brawl a bit more, but shit Floyd is an All-Time Great as well....you don't get where he is by being a pushover.

I didn't mention Ray Robinson simply because I think that era was different, it's like saying "How would Marciano do as a heavyweight today?". The training is different, the styles are different...not by a little, by a LOT. That said, Ray was super talented and I'd take him in a fight vs damn near anyone from 147 to 160

[El Kabong]

As far as how do you BEAT Floyd....well get him to bite on a feint, catch him, shake him off you, and flurry like a son of a bitch to try and drop him or stop him. Either that or muscle your way inside and make the fight ugly. Or if you're Tommy Hearns, land your big shot & follow up....other than that IDK...but there IS a way to beat Floyd, there's a way to beat anyone, but it's just a difficult one.

[erics44]

if i was a trainer id get my fighter to really mix it up

1st round pan im

2nd round run

3rd round hold

4th round bum'im

5th round rough it

or whatever

probly wont work like but its worth a try

[Master]

Leonard, Robison and Tommy Hearns with technical skills, speed, height, power and greatness.

Shane that beat ODH,
ODH that beat Vargas
Vernon Forrest that beat Shane
Tito that destroyed Blocker

[El Kabong]

Leonard, Robison and Tommy Hearns with technical skills, speed, height, power and greatness.

Shane that beat ODH,
ODH that beat Vargas
Vernon Forrest that beat Shane
Tito that destroyed Blocker

No Duran then? No Whittaker?....I think the Duran that beat Leonard would bust up just about anyone and let's remember he's the GREATEST lightweight of All-Time....and Pernell is probably #2 of the "modern era". The Mayorga that demolished Forrest? Yes he was crude and raw, but had a great chin and was brave in the ring

[Beanflicker]

No Duran then? No Whittaker?....I think the Duran that beat Leonard would bust up just about anyone and let's remember he's the GREATEST lightweight of All-Time....and Pernell is probably #2 of the "modern era". The Mayorga that demolished Forrest? Yes he was crude and raw, but had a great chin and was brave in the ring

I say Pernell schools Duran, but that's, like, just my opinion.

[jahmez]

Leonard, Robison and Tommy Hearns with technical skills, speed, height, power and greatness.

Shane that beat ODH,
ODH that beat Vargas
Vernon Forrest that beat Shane
Tito that destroyed Blocker

No Duran then? No Whittaker?....I think the Duran that beat Leonard would bust up just about anyone and let's remember he's the GREATEST lightweight of All-Time....and Pernell is probably #2 of the "modern era". The Mayorga that demolished Forrest? Yes he was crude and raw, but had a great chin and was brave in the ring

Definately agree with the Duran comment especially if that Duran fought the Mayweather of a few years ago. Floyd's bulked up and seems alot stronger recently but if they were to fight a while back I just see Duran walking him down then mauling him. It would be like the Cotto fight but Duran would be alot more wiley on the inside. No way do I see him stepping straight back out and letting Floyd top any of the work he did on the inside. Plus Duran had very underrated defense even when moving forward and was a great counterpuncher in his own right.

[Master]

Leonard, Robison and Tommy Hearns with technical skills, speed, height, power and greatness.

Shane that beat ODH,
ODH that beat Vargas
Vernon Forrest that beat Shane
Tito that destroyed Blocker

No Duran then? No Whittaker?....I think the Duran that beat Leonard would bust up just about anyone and let's remember he's the GREATEST lightweight of All-Time....and Pernell is probably #2 of the "modern era". The Mayorga that demolished Forrest? Yes he was crude and raw, but had a great chin and was brave in the ring

I have never rated Sweat Pea at welter just thought he came at the right time but at lightweight he was untouchable.

Floyd now certainly is stronger at the weight then when he first fought against Baldimor although he only weight 145lb is against Guerrero?

[chris6878]

Leonard, Robison and Tommy Hearns with technical skills, speed, height, power and greatness.

Shane that beat ODH,
ODH that beat Vargas
Vernon Forrest that beat Shane
Tito that destroyed Blocker

Also add winky that beat Shane and Tito

[beenKOed]

Disconnect his brain from his body. I know for sure you are not going to beat him by committee!
Floyd's fight plan is always the same, he watches his opponent for a couple of rounds, then starts picking them apart. He lets them get away with a few things at first, then turns up the speed.
Floyd's speed, ring generalship, boxing IQ, ability to wait patiently and almost never getting called for holding are tought to beat.
He's the man, it's pure and simple!

[THE THIRD MAN]

Disconnect his brain from his body. I know for sure you are not going to beat him by committee!
Floyd's fight plan is always the same, he watches his opponent for a couple of rounds, then starts picking them apart. He lets them get away with a few things at first, then turns up the speed.
Floyd's speed, ring generalship, boxing IQ, ability to wait patiently and almost never getting called for holding are tought to beat.
He's the man, it's pure and simple!

He also has a plan B and C if required. Mosley nailed him early and yet Mayweather wasn't rattled, he simply adjusted and never lost another round! He is the best defensive fighter i have ever seen, his ability to size up his opponents is uncanny, at first you think he might have trouble with a guy and then by the end of round 4 or 5 the fight result is in no doubt because Mayweather has already stepped into gear and has everything under control. You really have to nail him hard within the first two rounds, you have to dictate the fight first or he will destroy you mentally, Mayweather just takes control, works you out and just cruises to the end. The Pacquiao of 3 years ago was the best chance anyone had of beating Floyd, he had the angles, the pressure and the power to do it, he doesn't have that anymore and will be lucky to beat Rios in November. Alvarez has youth on his side, but i fear that Floyd will make a fool of him if they fight this year! In answer to the question posted "How do we beat Mayweather" ?... I'll be fucked if i know!

[Beanflicker]

There's no real answer. Maybe top quality boxers and trainers have tried to figure it out, so I doubt a bunch of dicks on a message board will find the equation.

I have to laugh at people who think Oscar found a "formula"... he got taken to school.

[chris6878]

There's no real answer. Maybe top quality boxers and trainers have tried to figure it out, so I doubt a bunch of dicks on a message board will find the equation.

I have to laugh at people who think Oscar found a "formula"... he got taken to school.

Rewatch the first few rounds before he pooped out lol

[Beanflicker]

Rewatch the first few rounds before he pooped out lol

Winning the first few rounds doesn't mean anything (and I don't agree he did). He presented something and Floyd adapted to it like he does to every opponent.