Journeymen with upside!

[Master]

Julius Francis had a bit of a peak when he beat an undefeated Pele Reid, Danny Williams and also Scott welsh I think before being destroyed by Tyson and being a journeyman again.

Would Danny Williams now count as a journeyman?

[greynotsoold]

The fairly recent classic in the category would be Freddie Pendleton; started his career 12-12 and went on to win part of the lightweight title, be a top guy for quite awhile, and finish his career, over the hill and fighting up and coming guys.
Freddie Pendleton - Boxer

[Vendettos]

Julius Francis had a bit of a peak when he beat an undefeated Pele Reid, Danny Williams and also Scott welsh I think before being destroyed by Tyson and being a journeyman again.

Would Danny Williams now count as a journeyman?

Now? Yes he is a JM, as he has lost 7 of his last 8, but he held the British and CommonW titles more than once, plus he fought for a world title.

Hard to define his mixed career.

[ykdadamaja]

Julius Francis had a bit of a peak when he beat an undefeated Pele Reid, Danny Williams and also Scott welsh I think before being destroyed by Tyson and being a journeyman again.

Would Danny Williams now count as a journeyman?

Yup. Danny is a journeyman. Would we consider Holyfield as a journeyman as well??

[Memphis]

How about Sugar Boy Malinga? Fought a who's who of 90's Super Middleweights, mainly losing efforts but managed to pick up wins against Benn (OK may have been done at that point) and Robin Reid, relieving both of their WBC strap. Managed to lose the title between those fights to serial whinger Vincenzo Nardiello.

[ykdadamaja]

How about Sugar Boy Malinga? Fought a who's who of 90's Super Middleweights, mainly losing efforts but managed to pick up wins against Benn (OK may have been done at that point) and Robin Reid, relieving both of their WBC strap. Managed to lose the title between those fights to serial whinger Vincenzo Nardiello.

Think Malinga can do it? I thought he retired too!!! lolol... ever since the Vince Phillips/Kostya Tyzsu fight, I kinda had my eye out for that odd journeyman.

[nuggetdotcom]

How about Sugar Boy Malinga? Fought a who's who of 90's Super Middleweights, mainly losing efforts but managed to pick up wins against Benn (OK may have been done at that point) and Robin Reid, relieving both of their WBC strap. Managed to lose the title between those fights to serial whinger Vincenzo Nardiello.

Monte Barret.........

Quality heavyweight, always gave his best, and upset the odds a few times (Tua?)

[Hulk]

How about Sugar Boy Malinga? Fought a who's who of 90's Super Middleweights, mainly losing efforts but managed to pick up wins against Benn (OK may have been done at that point) and Robin Reid, relieving both of their WBC strap. Managed to lose the title between those fights to serial whinger Vincenzo Nardiello.

Monte Barret.........

Quality heavyweight, always gave his best, and upset the odds a few times (Tua?)

I like Monte Barrett at lot. He always gave 100% and upset Dominick Guinn (at the peak of his popularity), Owen Beck, and Joe Mesi in my book.

He also brought it against Valuev and David Haye.

Was cool seeing Monte KO Tye Fields in 1 round a few years back.

For a short while, Barrett was a top ten heavyweight and even fought a piece of the crown against Rahman.

[p4pking]

How about Sugar Boy Malinga? Fought a who's who of 90's Super Middleweights, mainly losing efforts but managed to pick up wins against Benn (OK may have been done at that point) and Robin Reid, relieving both of their WBC strap. Managed to lose the title between those fights to serial whinger Vincenzo Nardiello.

Monte Barret.........

Quality heavyweight, always gave his best, and upset the odds a few times (Tua?)

I like Monte Barrett at lot. He always gave 100% and upset Dominick Guinn (at the peak of his popularity), Owen Beck, and Joe Mesi in my book.

He also brought it against Valuev and David Haye.

Was cool seeing Monte KO Tye Fields in 1 round a few years back.

For a short while, Barrett was a top ten heavyweight and even fought a piece of the crown against Rahman.

I've been thinking for a minute, and Monte Barret for a while was as good an example as I've got. It's a little different at HW since anyone can punch, but he was a great example of this guy. Not a big man or KO puncher, but just a cagey vet with enough pop to make a good few fights interesting if not upsets entirely.

[Domiko]

Chisora... Even though hes only lost 3 times

[Silkeyjoe]

Emanuel Augustus

[ykdadamaja]

But how is Monte Barrett a journeyman, but not Evander Holyfield or David Tua?

[Hulk]

Sherman Williams and Michael Sprott showed they had some upside with spirited efforts against Helenius.

Derrick Findley is another, just fought Curtis Stevens and gave him a tough fight, also gave hell to J'Leon Love the fight before that.

Findley doesn't seem to want to be a journeyman anymore and is trying to rise above it.

Lastly, I'd add Sam Soliman as he just beat Sturm, but tested positive for roids afterwards so idk bout his future

[ykdadamaja]

Sherman Williams and Michael Sprott showed they had some upside with spirited efforts against Helenius.

Derrick Findley is another, just fought Curtis Stevens and gave him a tough fight, also gave hell to J'Leon Love the fight before that.

Findley doesn't seem to want to be a journeyman anymore and is trying to rise above it.

Lastly, I'd add Sam Soliman as he just beat Sturm, but tested positive for roids afterwards so idk bout his future

Roids don't end careers anymore. Now, if you have loaded gloves, yea. But not Roids. A ban, but probably only for 12 months, max!