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    Default Re: Kessler sparring Cleverly and Groves

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    So basically Kessler hit his peak several years before Froch did? I don't really see that as an advantage for Kessler...

    A fighter who is years closer to his peak fighting consitently better opposition recently than one who seems to have peaked years earlier seems very relevant to me...
    If it hadnt been for the super 6, under fat Hannesey, Froch would not have that list of opponents. Kessler is class and his team trusted him against world ranked opponents whereas Carls were nervous. Kessler is still class, he beat Froch by fighting Frochs fight comfortably last time. Even Mack made Froch look static until he fell apart from being drained and just not very good anyway

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    Default Re: Kessler sparring Cleverly and Groves

    Did you actually watch the Mack fight?

    Even if we take your assertion that Mack was severely weight drained as true, it wasn't remotely close... Froch had Mack hurting holding on from the first left hook that he landed, he didn't wear down a drained fighter in a grueling contest.

    The 1st was cagey until Froch connected and the 2nd was at a low pace until the last 10 seconds when Froch unloaded... How draining could 2 1/2 rounds at a relatively low pace be?!

    As I said, the fight was a bit of a gimme for Froch, no more than an old Brian Magee was though.

    You can't use Kessler's performance against Andrade as an example of his ability and then COMPLETELY dismiss Froch's performance against Mack (a guy who is essentially on the exact same level). Got be consistent.

    Kes has only fought 3 times since Froch, once against a nobody, once against an old man and most notably stopping Allan Green (which he climbed off the canvass to do).

    I can only rate them off recent form and opposition, Froch's has been notably better. With that in mind, it is very plausable to say that Froxh may have progressed and Kessler may have regressed. With that in mind and given just how close the last fight was (not even factoring in the home town disadvantage and the disruption to Froch's travel and preperation) and the fact that Froch's tactics suited Kessler's style and can be changed - is it crazy to suggest that the odds might be slightly tipped in Froch's favour this time?

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    Default Re: Kessler sparring Cleverly and Groves

    This may upset a few of you, but Cleverly sparred hundreds of rounds, with the Best FIGHTER we
    ever had Calzaghe, far better than Froch and Joe well beat Kessler did he not.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    This may upset a few of you, but Cleverly sparred hundreds of rounds, with the Best FIGHTER we
    ever had Calzaghe, far better than Froch and Joe well beat Kessler did he not.!
    What's your point?

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    Default Re: Kessler sparring Cleverly and Groves

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    This may upset a few of you, but Cleverly sparred hundreds of rounds, with the Best FIGHTER we
    ever had Calzaghe, far better than Froch and Joe well beat Kessler did he not.!
    What's your point?
    My point being Cleverly is a good fighter, not some bum Froch is what he is he stands toe to toe,
    as skill goes he can be out boxed. What a load of crap he could out box Cleverly, as for KO him
    he has NEVER been dropped. I will have to repeat myself, 100's of rounds sparred with the best
    SM of ALL TIME, JC always rated Nathan as a amateur and pro, you like who you like but please
    some people cut out the bullshit.

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