Does Lucas Matthysse have ANY weaknesses?

**IamInuit** · 05-19-2013 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by TitoFan

How do you gameplan for this guy? He's got sick power in both hands. He's fearless. He's got a solid chin. He's got underrated boxing skills. He just took out Lamont Petersen like he was just taking out the trash on a Saturday night. And not dissing Petersen, either. Lamont is a solid professional who's been in there with the best. But that was downright scary.

So how do you gameplan for this guy?

I think people are getting a little carried away. Has he even fought a pure puncher? The answer is no but listening to Al and the crew you would think he was Chuvalo. He can be out boxed as an over the hill Judah showed and Devon. He caught up to Lamont tonight but seriously I'm not sure how Al can claim he's the best Jr welt in the division. Its like saying Valero was the best lightweight prior to his death because he had a 100% ko ratio. I'm not convinced he's this unstoppable force. Don't get me wrong that was impressive. I hope the Garcia fight gets made and I'd love to see him in with a guy like Rios.

I think Al is right. His two losses were contentious decisions against top rated fighters in their own backyard (he would almost certainly be unbeaten if the fights took place in Argentina). He just destroyed Peterson, which gives him the jump on Khan. Which leaves Garcia, whose best win is against Khan, and just had a tough fight with Judah.

So there's definitely an argument for Matthysse to be rated no.1 - And he is improving with big fight experience.

Technically speaking I have to agree with you. Last night alone makes the statement that at least he's a contender for top dog but I still think some people and especially the crew are jumping to conclusions. Lamont was the first top 140 lad that he has beaten. Last night Lamont did the right thing in the first round by using the ring but he then followed up in the second by forgetting about the outside half. It was not because Lucas cut the ring off. All and all it was an impressive result worthy of the highlight reel but I just don't think he is what he appears to be.

**Silkeyjoe** · 05-19-2013 05:47 PM

I think he fought Maidana 4 times as an amateur losing 3 and drawing one. In saying that I think Matthysse stops him in the pro ranks but would be a cracking fight. I think Matthysse would struggle against Alexander again. Good boxer with a solid solid chin. Petersons chin has never looked great to me.

At 140 I cant see anyone beating him but are some great fights id like to see before he moves up, Garcia, Alvarado, Rios and Khan would all be very entertaining.

**Violent Demise** · 05-19-2013 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

I think he fought Maidana 4 times as an amateur losing 3 and drawing one. In saying that I think Matthysse stops him in the pro ranks but would be a cracking fight. I think Matthysse would struggle against Alexander again. Good boxer with a solid solid chin. Petersons chin has never looked great to me.

At 140 I cant see anyone beating him but are some great fights id like to see before he moves up, Garcia, Alvarado, Rios and Khan would all be very entertaining.

It'll be a great fight. But if Ortiz couldn't stop Maidana, I doubt Matthysse would

**TitoFan** · 05-20-2013 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

I think he fought Maidana 4 times as an amateur losing 3 and drawing one. In saying that I think Matthysse stops him in the pro ranks but would be a cracking fight. I think Matthysse would struggle against Alexander again. Good boxer with a solid solid chin. Petersons chin has never looked great to me.

At 140 I cant see anyone beating him but are some great fights id like to see before he moves up, Garcia, Alvarado, Rios and Khan would all be very entertaining.

It'll be a great fight. But if Ortiz couldn't stop Maidana, I doubt Matthysse would

Victor? He did have Maidana down 3 times before being TKO'ed himself.
And IMO, Matthysse is a significantly bigger puncher than Ortiz is.

**FinitoElDinamita** · 05-20-2013 01:57 AM

Yea he's weak against movement.. SOmebody with a good punch resistance, stamina, and the ability to stick and move in angles will beat him..

I see alot of post-fight high comments being thrown around like he's some great boxer-puncher but I dont think his boxing ability is that great. IM not putting him in the same category with the Brandon Rios and the Maidanas but he's certainly not that good of a boxer..