Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
This has nothing to do with lefties. Nothing to do with being armed. Nothing to do with giving in or grovelling and being a nation of bitches. It has nothing to do with child rape or mosques or doing things in God's name. There is no easy equation that will help you come up with a magic answer to quell the horror you feel inside at how low people can stoop. It is right to feel revulsion and anger and hate because such a barbarous act is truly inhumane and vile. Just don't let it make you stoop to their level. Don't go out and join the EDL and batter a Sikh because he is browner than you are. Don't assume the colour of the scum that did this is any more defining than the pasty white skin of Anders Breivik killing 72 innocent people in Norway means that all blonde haired white people with far right tendencies are potential murderers. People use all kinds of justification for horrendous acts of savagery but their excuses do nothing to alleviate the guilt that they put over their own heads.


The press itself while under a responsibility to print the facts has not helped the situation by publishing photographs to maximise circulation and indirectly promote these madmens deluded nonsense.
You are right Greenbeanz, but there must be answers somewhere as to why there are seemingly more 'mentalists' that associate themselves with Islam than do any other religion/cause - or at least are mental enough to be willing to kill. Clearly the problem is not exclusive to Muslims, and I hope it goes without saying that this isn't indicative of the Islamic faith as a whole, but the occurances of these brutal acts of violence by those that do so under the name of Allah far outweigh the equally horrific actions of the likes of Breivik. I don't think it's reactionary or ignorant to just be aware of this and say it. But saying that is a long long long way from joining the EDL or such. These people clearly represent noone - but the fact that they themselves stated it was done in the name of Allah can't just be ignored.
Breivik killed 72. Is anyone really interested in the reasons he gave? or the fact that he smirked through his court case ? It's not about ignoring whose name they said it was done in the name of because like most religions Islam is often used as an excuse for brutality. It is not an excuse though so what more can you do? you can't pretend it doesn't exist and you can't reason with people who have put their fingers in their ears.