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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    From a legacy viewpoint, the fight does nothing for Floyd's legacy. From a risk/reward viewpoint, it couldn't be better for Floyd.
    Jeez I don't know if I agree with that. Chinny or not, Khan is a fantastic boxing talent with the skill and speed to potentially be a handful for Floyd.

    On the reward part, what does Floyd really gain? He's beating a 140lber who got brutally beaten less than a year ago. I realize he'll make a lot of money off of it, but I think at this point in his career Floyd can make a lot of money fighting just about anyone.

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    This is a smart move for Floyd. His fans will get to see him knock Khan down or perhaps knock him out, something he hasn't done lately. I like Khan, he is fun to watch but I don't think watching him fight Floyd will be that much fun

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Khan might see his point under all the noise. Lets face it, just because hes cashing a massive check a guy can only be ko'd so many times before the gig is up. Khan might as well wear a massive red bow on his head and jump out of a box tossing gold coins when he is introduced..pre hammering.

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    From a legacy viewpoint, the fight does nothing for Floyd's legacy. From a risk/reward viewpoint, it couldn't be better for Floyd.
    Jeez I don't know if I agree with that. Chinny or not, Khan is a fantastic boxing talent with the skill and speed to potentially be a handful for Floyd.

    On the reward part, what does Floyd really gain? He's beating a 140lber who got brutally beaten less than a year ago. I realize he'll make a lot of money off of it, but I think at this point in his career Floyd can make a lot of money fighting just about anyone.
    Come on, @Beanflicker . Just once, let's agree on this.

    Amir Khan will pose exactly 0 danger for Floyd Mayweather. A guy who goes life and death with Julio Diaz poses no danger for Floyd Mayweather. Same with Guerrero, a guy who went life and death with Gamaliel Diaz and Orlando Salido, just isn't going to be a challenge for Floyd Mayweather. It doesn't matter if he has the fastest hands in the business, or is the toughest. Their flaws are too great for a master technician.

    Amir Khan is a great fight for Floyd for exactly those reasons. Showtime's footing the bill. Why wouldn't he face one easy fight after another?

    Again, this is nothing against Amir Khan. He's a great talent. It's just at the end of the day, for some reason, it doesn't all come together to make a guy who will give Floyd Mayweather problems.

    In any event, wasn't the Lucas Matthysse/Lamont Peterson winner supposed to fight Danny Garcia, and the winner of that against Amir Khan?
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 05-24-2013 at 04:00 PM.

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

    A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

    I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

    A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

    I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
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    Tell me why any of those guys would be a bigger threat than Khan? Garcia and Matthyse are tailor made for Floyd. Bradley will win a couple rounds at best.

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    No he is not right. Boxing is many things and you can not deny the fight would be entertaining while it lasts. Lots of people would like to see it.

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

    A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

    I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
    Handspeed, footspeed and jab? So your saying Khan will have the advantage because he'll box Floyd? I dunno man, sounds like a kid bringing his Checker board to a Chess tournament right there. Khan gets shirt circuited and has a nasty habit of mentally seizing when he gets clipped, fighting the other guys fight. Floyd would have him on a leash like a trained poodle before top long.

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
    Handspeed, footspeed and jab? So your saying Khan will have the advantage because he'll box Floyd? I dunno man, sounds like a kid bringing his Checker board to a Chess tournament right there. Khan gets shirt circuited and has a nasty habit of mentally seizing when he gets clipped, fighting the other guys fight. Floyd would have him on a leash like a trained poodle before top long.[/QUOTE]

    Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think Khan beats Floyd. I just say that with his general speed (of hand and foot) he's giving Floyd a lot more to think about than a guy like Matthyse or Garcia, who would get boxed silly.

    Khan has a china chin and has been on the skids lately, but when his head is on he's a superb boxing talent.

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

    A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

    I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
    Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

    Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

    A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

    I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
    Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

    Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
    First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.

    I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

    A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

    I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
    Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

    Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
    First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.

    I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks
    It wasn't a question of who would be easier for Floyd, Garcia or Khan, but whether Khan has a legitimate chance at beating Mayweather. So he had moments against Peterson, Prescott, and Garcia? The point is all those guys found ways to beat Khan, and they are nowhere near the level of Mayweather. If Garcia can time him, if Peterson can force him to fight Peterson's fight, and if Prescott can land that punch, Mayweather can do all those things and a lot more. I'm sorry but it was the same thing with Guerrero; Khan just isn't a challenge for Mayweather. He just isn't. I can't see it.

    Missy hates Khan. I feel her. I don't, but against Mayweather, it's just a different level. @Beanflicker thinks very, very highly of Khan. Khan is a good fighter. He's a solid top ten junior welterweight (I think?). Who has been his best win at junior welterweight? Judah? Paulie? Am I missing someone?

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

    A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

    I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
    Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

    Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
    First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.

    I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks
    It wasn't a question of who would be easier for Floyd, Garcia or Khan, but whether Khan has a legitimate chance at beating Mayweather. So he had moments against Peterson, Prescott, and Garcia? The point is all those guys found ways to beat Khan, and they are nowhere near the level of Mayweather. If Garcia can time him, if Peterson can force him to fight Peterson's fight, and if Prescott can land that punch, Mayweather can do all those things and a lot more. I'm sorry but it was the same thing with Guerrero; Khan just isn't a challenge for Mayweather. He just isn't. I can't see it.

    Missy hates Khan. I feel her. I don't, but against Mayweather, it's just a different level. @Beanflicker thinks very, very highly of Khan. Khan is a good fighter. He's a solid top ten junior welterweight (I think?). Who has been his best win at junior welterweight? Judah? Paulie? Am I missing someone?
    Who is a challenge for Mayweather? I thought that was the argument. And I think Khan is more of a challenge then a guy like Garcia. Again Ill repeat, I do not think Khan will beat Mayweather

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    Default Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

    A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

    I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
    Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

    Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
    First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.

    I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks
    It wasn't a question of who would be easier for Floyd, Garcia or Khan, but whether Khan has a legitimate chance at beating Mayweather. So he had moments against Peterson, Prescott, and Garcia? The point is all those guys found ways to beat Khan, and they are nowhere near the level of Mayweather. If Garcia can time him, if Peterson can force him to fight Peterson's fight, and if Prescott can land that punch, Mayweather can do all those things and a lot more. I'm sorry but it was the same thing with Guerrero; Khan just isn't a challenge for Mayweather. He just isn't. I can't see it.

    Missy hates Khan. I feel her. I don't, but against Mayweather, it's just a different level. @Beanflicker thinks very, very highly of Khan. Khan is a good fighter. He's a solid top ten junior welterweight (I think?). Who has been his best win at junior welterweight? Judah? Paulie? Am I missing someone?
    This, however, I feel it's too obvious to even debate.

    Khan is not a smart fighter, is chinny and some folks think he is going to outbox Mayweather and you wonder why I take the piss?

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