Soldier butchered in street in Woolwich

[Andre]

This has nothing to do with lefties. Nothing to do with being armed. Nothing to do with giving in or grovelling and being a nation of bitches. It has nothing to do with child rape or mosques or doing things in God's name. There is no easy equation that will help you come up with a magic answer to quell the horror you feel inside at how low people can stoop. It is right to feel revulsion and anger and hate because such a barbarous act is truly inhumane and vile. Just don't let it make you stoop to their level. Don't go out and join the EDL and batter a Sikh because he is browner than you are. Don't assume the colour of the scum that did this is any more defining than the pasty white skin of Anders Breivik killing 72 innocent people in Norway means that all blonde haired white people with far right tendencies are potential murderers. People use all kinds of justification for horrendous acts of savagery but their excuses do nothing to alleviate the guilt that they put over their own heads.


The press itself while under a responsibility to print the facts has not helped the situation by publishing photographs to maximise circulation and indirectly promote these madmens deluded nonsense.

You are right Greenbeanz, but there must be answers somewhere as to why there are seemingly more 'mentalists' that associate themselves with Islam than do any other religion/cause - or at least are mental enough to be willing to kill. Clearly the problem is not exclusive to Muslims, and I hope it goes without saying that this isn't indicative of the Islamic faith as a whole, but the occurances of these brutal acts of violence by those that do so under the name of Allah far outweigh the equally horrific actions of the likes of Breivik. I don't think it's reactionary or ignorant to just be aware of this and say it. But saying that is a long long long way from joining the EDL or such. These people clearly represent noone - but the fact that they themselves stated it was done in the name of Allah can't just be ignored.

Breivik killed 72. Is anyone really interested in the reasons he gave? or the fact that he smirked through his court case ? It's not about ignoring whose name they said it was done in the name of because like most religions Islam is often used as an excuse for brutality. It is not an excuse though so what more can you do? you can't pretend it doesn't exist and you can't reason with people who have put their fingers in their ears.

It has got to do with some things mentioned that are Islamic practices like child marriage/rape, as well as terrorism against the public and the mutilation of their young womens genitals,it all has to cease.

I bet those who aligned themselves with Breviks politics distanced themselves from him very smartly and stated they had nothing to do with the idiots deeper views or actions.

Thats all the Muslim community have to do as well,but they need to take that message back inside their Mosques and preach it in there to stop more idiots getting the same ideas and committing further acts in their name.


You can say it has nothing to do with them,(true but only personally).
It has got to do with them if they remain quiet in the Mosques about it,yet state publicly outside to us that Islam is a religion of peace. They need to do something about those within their sub groups who state the reverse then train others to act on it.

(It means in the long run a split in their own religion).

[Dark Lord Al]

I have always hated the fact muslims put religion before nationality.

Are these people british or muslims ?

they hacked an Englishman to death , because of deaths to muslims in Afganistan ,
doesn't that tell you a lot about loyalties.

Religion for me is the cause of all conflicts and I have no time for any of it.

It turns out the British security forces had known about these two pieces of shit for a decade , it beggers belief we cant do something about it , because of the race and religion card which they play.

I would give them the death penalty for treason.

R.I.P

[El Kabong]

The EDL is what exactly?

[ryanman]

The EDL is what exactly?

English Defence League.
A far-right facist group.
On the political spectrum they are to the right of the BNP.

[El Kabong]

The EDL is what exactly?

English Defence League.
A far-right facist group.
On the political spectrum they are to the right of the BNP.

There's only 2 kinds of English leagues I know about... the Premiere League and the Human League


I wonder if you British have anything like the Libertarian Party

[Howlin Mad Missy]

The EDL is what exactly?

English Defence League.
A far-right facist group.
On the political spectrum they are to the right of the BNP.

or these folks at 0.54

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

The thing that subsequently struck me was that this event exposed all the glaring holes, corruptions, hypocrisies and contradictions in all facets of our society - to the point where I just had to turn my back on it all.

But anyway... Poor lad, if it was an actual soldier, I probably wouldn't mind as much - it's a soldiers job to kill or be killed (sounds terrible) but killing a drummer boy somehow highlights the feeble nature of it all. I mean I doubt this does much to bolster the extremists position. This was a supposed act of terror but we're hardly terrified by it ay?

The only lingering thing is the trial and media coverage. The attackers should have been disposed of quickly and unceremoniously - not have his bloody hands put on national newspapers and television sets for millions of little eyes to see ('terrorism' eh?).

[Andre]

If I change religions Ill be a Mussie Aussie

[bzkfn]

If I change religions Ill be a Mussie Aussie

@Andre

Ever thought of growing an Aussie Muzzie?

[El Kabong]

If I change religions Ill be a Mussie Aussie

Racist! Wait.....Missy he's racist for saying that right?

[Dark Lord Al]

Lets not all stray to far from the thread title , last week 2 black muslims butchered an innocent man in the streets of London , and however you look at it , that is a terrible thing.

My thoughts go out to his family. r,i,p.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

If I change religions Ill be a Mussie Aussie

Racist! Wait.....Missy he's racist for saying that right?

Was he?

Fuzzy

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

DAL seriously