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Blitzkrieg tactics didn't work on the uk and the axis all but decided not to bother with the UK after their tactics of quickly crippling s nation's infastructure before invading failed.
The eventual German defeat had as much to do with Hitler spreading the German army over two fronts than the US intervening... They'd lost the war in western europe the second they tried to invade russua IN THE WINTER.
Educate yourself.
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American white groups were mostly German people closely followed by Irish then English not far behind,only a % or so.
We all share the same Ancestors if white, get over your selves you are all from the same stock.
America came in because of Japan, not as some saviors of Europe and the truth is Churchill got America into the war via Japan. (If you know what he didnt do, you would agree).
But thanks for the help clearing it up and removing the Japs out of the equation cause honestly they were giving us Aussies more than we could handle in Singapore and Indonesia.Cheers
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I'm very educated on the war. There's no denying Hitler invading Russia was one of the things that caused his downfall. But lets be real here. Britain would have fallen without the US help. Without Lend-Lease and all the other material shit it was getting from the US before the US even joined the war, Britain would of gone out like the French. Without the US, Britain wouldn't of been able to defend itself. Not only that but Britain no longer had resources to go on the offensive against Germany without the US. Yeah they could of maybe held out until Russia made it's strength felt, but I doubt it. And even then Russia was also relying heavily on US provided supplies. That's not opinion. Those are facts. So like I said, respect what saved you
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Is this the preamble for Andre Ward v Carl Froch war?
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
I 'respect' that multiple nations won the second world war. It's nice to hear you change you rhetoric slightly, even if you are still massively downplaying Hitler ignoring all of his generals by trying to fight a war on two fronts (when the harsh conditions of the eastern front could barely be supplied alone).
The likely outcome of the US joining later or not at all is that Britain is war torn for a few more years while the German Eastern Front eventually collapses.
Luckily the UK withstood Blitzkrieg (unlike the rest of western europe), or else you lose your base to invade normandy and the war goes on several years longer than it should have.
Thanks to the US for closing things quicker, shame they didn't step in sooner, they certainatly stopped the pacific and far east from being fucked.
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Its really making a case for not taking Ward. Froch can stay at home and fight Kenny Getup or Dusty Trunks and make the money and draw fans. I'm not disputing the market but at what point does actually wanting to right a loss take over. Ward isn't some pug or homeless also ran. Its his prerogativ as the winner and dominate guy to do as he pleases and he is under zero obligation to take a pay cut or come with tin cup in hand. In the end it will be Froch not making the fight if it doesn't come off, and I like the guy! If you can beat him, go get him.
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On top of my laptop breaking this week and finishing with the girl I love , I dropped my iPhone in the toilet and it broke, I might not be able to post on here for a bit unless I can borrow my friends laptop but until I can get things sorted, ill be off the radarI know froch won, but I am gutted here. Today has been such a good bad day
! Catch everyone soon.
Last edited by Tam Seddon; 05-26-2013 at 04:32 AM.
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Carl Froch has crossed the Atlantic to fight several times, including his loss to Ward.
Andre Ward would gain so much more respect if he were to venture outside the U.S. for the first time to take on Froch again.
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