Andre Ward is officially off his rocker

[IamInuit]

What does an average British football stadium hold attendance wise?

[Beanz]

What does an average British football stadium hold attendance wise?

Wembley holds about 90,000.
Old Trafford about 75 000
Most Premiership grounds hold about 30-40 000
the next league down about 25, 000 capacity per stadium
the next league up to about 20 000
and the bottom league between 5000 and 20 000 depending on the club and it's history/catchment area

[Spicoli]

Ward may be alot of things..arrogant and borish come to mind but to suggest he is weary and or ducking Froch is straight paint huffing talk. Chasing trinkets from a man you already beat soundly is not an incentive for making a fight..wanting to beat and revenge a man who did the same to you is.

[Beanflicker]

You're misquoting him. It says in the article that they project the fight will generate 50 pounds in revenue. I don't see where Ward said he wanted to get paid 50 pounds.

And Ward will go down as DUCKING a guy who he whipped a year and a half ago?
Crazy british fans like you are the reason why I usually root against the British fighters.

If Froch wants to go down as UK's greatest, if he SERIOUSLY wants to compete with a guy like Calzaghe in terms of legacy, he needs to avenge his loss to Ward.

[Fenster]

Ward never said anything about £50 million but mentioning Wembley Stadium is laughable. He might as well as said - fuck all you Britishers I ain't ever coming back

[Beanz]

Great article by Danny Flexen from BN

Carl Froch-Andre Ward at Wembley Stadium: yeah right! | Latest | Boxing News

[Master]

That is an excellent article I think the fight will not immediately happen but will further down the line in the USA.

[Beanflicker]

Wembley holds about 90,000.

Oh shit, I was thinking the 02 was the big one.

Has there ever been big boxing matches at Wembley or do they stay away? I remember a WWF event did well there back in the 90s

[bzkfn]

Wembley holds about 90,000.

Oh shit, I was thinking the 02 was the big one.

Has there ever been big boxing matches at Wembley or do they stay away? I remember a WWF event did well there back in the 90s

Frank Bruno-Oliver McCall was at the old Wembley and that held 80,000. No boxing fight has been held at the new Wembley which holds 90,000.

Along similar lines, Calzaghe-Kessler was at the Millenium Stadium in Cardiff that holds 70,000. They said it sold out. Also, just to prove people will buy any old shit, Joe got around 35,000 in the same stadium for the Manfredo fight.

[ross]

Wembley holds about 90,000.

Oh shit, I was thinking the 02 was the big one.

Has there ever been big boxing matches at Wembley or do they stay away? I remember a WWF event did well there back in the 90s

Frank Bruno-Oliver McCall was at the old Wembley and that held 80,000. No boxing fight has been held at the new Wembley which holds 90,000.

Along similar lines, Calzaghe-Kessler was at the Millenium Stadium in Cardiff that holds 70,000. They said it sold out. Also, just to prove people will buy any old shit, Joe got around 35,000 in the same stadium for the Manfredo fight.

I know what you mean!

People knew they had a special fighter and just wanted to be present at one of his fights live. Its like Tyson was. He could still draw a crowd now for exhibition bouts. Its all about the star name.

Froch has almost got there if not there now and he should now try and get Steiglitz and or Bika who should both be the other 2 title holders and become the unified world champ. Both are beatable but I see Kessler going for Steiglitz. Froch against Bika would sell in the UK, it would be another unification amd a recognised name because of the Calzaghe connection.

[bzkfn]

I know what you mean!

People knew they had a special fighter and just wanted to be present at one of his fights live. Its like Tyson was. He could still draw a crowd now for exhibition bouts. Its all about the star name.

Froch has almost got there if not there now and he should now try and get Steiglitz and or Bika who should both be the other 2 title holders and become the unified world champ. Both are beatable but I see Kessler going for Steiglitz. Froch against Bika would sell in the UK, it would be another unification amd a recognised name because of the Calzaghe connection.

Not yet it wouldn't. Bika hasn't won the belt yet!

[Onetime]

This is why Floyd acts like a d-bag this thread is a bold face lie, the part about 50 million pounds is not in quotes because Ward didn't say it, everyone always hates on Ward.

[beenKOed]

This is why Floyd acts like a d-bag this thread is a bold face lie, the part about 50 million pounds is not in quotes because Ward didn't say it, everyone always hates on Ward.

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Ask the guy who started this thread, most of us don't check the authenticity of the threads.

[IamInuit]

This is why Floyd acts like a d-bag this thread is a bold face lie, the part about 50 million pounds is not in quotes because Ward didn't say it, everyone always hates on Ward.

Ask the guy who made the article why he came up with the number and never included it is his story. I could care less if person A calls the paper a rag.

Countless boxingscene stories are posted almost daily here and on just about on every boxing site on the web and about half the time there articles are a load of shit. I post one article that does not mention the figure in the title in the article and its some kind of indictable offense.

"everyone hates on Ward" Grow up ffs.

Each time a person disagrees with the line taken on the latest primadonna they are called "haters" That term as far as boxing is concerned is as meaningless as p4p.

You Ward idol worshipers are incapable of objective dialogue. If that figure was actually mentioned in the article you would still try to justify it. Its like the logic you attempt to use when the question is asked as to why he wont leave home. It would not make any difference because of how easily he won is a premise often used. That answer begs the question. If it was going to be so easy regardless of geography then why did he not travel and why wont he now? It begs another one also. If he is so far and away better then the rest, then why did he need all of those security blankets? Why does he need them now? I mean Froch should be easy work no matter where its held.Being worried about getting robbed is not an argument either. In fact its a classic cop-out.

Just in case you want to ask me about these "security blankets" here are the facts.

Why the stacked deck?

Miranda
Oracle arena….Cali
John Schorle. Ref…..Cali
Steve English… Cali
Marty Sammon….Cali
Marshal Walker…Cali

Kessler
Oracle arena
Jack Reis Ref….Cali
Mikael Hook….Sweeden
Steve Morrow…Cali
Stanley Chritoldoulou…SA card for hire

Green
Oracle arena
Raul Caiz Ref…Cali
Glen Feldman… Usa
Marty Sammon…Cali
Alfredo Polanco…Cali

Bika
Oracle arena
Dan Stell Ref….Cali
Marty Sammon…Cali. He must be the traveling judge with the Ward team.
John Schorlie…Cali. When he can’t ref a Ward fight he gets to judge.
Hunter Walton…USA

Abraham
Home Depot Carson. About an hour or from the Oracle by car.
Luis Pabon Ref…PR
Stanley Chritoloudou SA
Ingo Barrabas..Germany
James Jen kin…Cali

Abraham demanded different representation and Ward still managed location with a Cali judge and good old Stanley sell out to the highest bidder.

Froch made similar demands

Atlantic City
Smoger Ref…NJ
Metcafe…Alberta
King…England
Stewart…NJ

Dawson. Did he really need any help? It was like Lalonde/Leonard 2. Only an idiot thought Dawson had a shot dropping that kind of muscle weight and they could have had Larry, Moe and Curley judge that one. And still,

Oracle arena
Smoger Ref…NJ
Ledderman…NY
Mendoza…Cali
Walker…Cali

What Ward should be concerned about is Karma

[amat]

Carson isn't exactly an hour away by car, it's an hour and a half by plane and 8 in a car. Also Marty Sammons is a tremendous judge and I doubt many camps had worries about him . Judges are chosen by local commissions and the pay isn't enticing enough a lot to have international judges So yes, Ward should get ohout more, I agree but heiisn't the only guy in boxing fjghting close to home.

More importantly, when the hell has any of this stuff mattered? Has he ever been on the receivingend of a ccontroversial decision? Only the Kessler fight can it be argues that he received any preferential treatment and he dominated that bout regardless. Btw, that was Kessler so call to go to Oakland, he thought he would get his road fight out of the way early against the biggest underdog in the Super 6 first round.

Other than that, when has a judge ever protected Ward? If anything the worst judging ever in a Ward fight was in Froch where two judges submitted atrocious cards in favor of Froch. I just don't see why the judges matter?

I hope Ward does fight Froch on the road. Nobody ever alley DLH a homer for fighting in LA and Vegas though. Gatti never got shit for fighting in AC. Even Calzage only came over for two fights. None of those guys should be criticized for fighting where they could make the most money. Now it's a little precarious because the money for Ward is in England but he still has a win over Froch which has is just as big of a bargaining chip. I genuinely don't understand the anti Ward sentiment here.