There is a reason why the thread has turned to the Iraq war and it has nothing to do with me. Yourself and Miles and Lyle all took it down that dead end. As for Straw man arguments it really is not the case that I misrepresented your own arguments but rather that you have yourself resorted to creating such fallacies to defend an untenable position.

If like you attest the Iraq war was ENTIRELY about access to it's Oil reserves then what happened to the victims of genocide planned and carried out ? Were they not good enough reasons to question the lefts policy of turning a blind eye. Do you really think the wringing of hands or averting ones eyes while atrocities are carried out amounts to anything more than being an apologist for Murderous dictators like Saddam Hussein?

You are trying to make out that people who carry out acts of terror, whether in New York or Woolwich are seeking to avenge the deaths of innocent Muslims when in reality they are seeking to usher in a new regime of intolerance and barbarity in which more innocent people of all faiths and none are crushed under their medieval doctrines.