Andre Ward is officially off his rocker

[amat]

Carson isn't exactly an hour away by car, it's an hour and a half by plane and 8 in a car. Also Marty Sammons is a tremendous judge and I doubt many camps had worries about him . Judges are chosen by local commissions and the pay isn't enticing enough a lot to have international judges So yes, Ward should get ohout more, I agree but heiisn't the only guy in boxing fjghting close to home.

More importantly, when the hell has any of this stuff mattered? Has he ever been on the receivingend of a ccontroversial decision? Only the Kessler fight can it be argues that he received any preferential treatment and he dominated that bout regardless. Btw, that was Kessler so call to go to Oakland, he thought he would get his road fight out of the way early against the biggest underdog in the Super 6 first round.

Other than that, when has a judge ever protected Ward? If anything the worst judging ever in a Ward fight was in Froch where two judges submitted atrocious cards in favor of Froch. I just don't see why the judges matter?

I hope Ward does fight Froch on the road. Nobody ever alley DLH a homer for fighting in LA and Vegas though. Gatti never got shit for fighting in AC. Even Calzage only came over for two fights. None of those guys should be criticized for fighting where they could make the most money. Now it's a little precarious because the money for Ward is in England but he still has a win over Froch which has is just as big of a bargaining chip. I genuinely don't understand the anti Ward sentiment here.

[Beanz]

Carson isn't exactly an hour away by car, it's an hour and a half by plane and 8 in a car. Also Marty Sammons is a tremendous judge and I doubt many camps had worries about him . Judges are chosen by local commissions and the pay isn't enticing enough a lot to have international judges So yes, Ward should get ohout more, I agree but heiisn't the only guy in boxing fjghting close to home.

More importantly, when the hell has any of this stuff mattered? Has he ever been on the receivingend of a ccontroversial decision? Only the Kessler fight can it be argues that he received any preferential treatment and he dominated that bout regardless. Btw, that was Kessler so call to go to Oakland, he thought he would get his road fight out of the way early against the biggest underdog in the Super 6 first round.

Other than that, when has a judge ever protected Ward? If anything the worst judging ever in a Ward fight was in Froch where two judges submitted atrocious cards in favor of Froch. I just don't see why the judges matter?

I hope Ward does fight Froch on the road. Nobody ever alley DLH a homer for fighting in LA and Vegas though. Gatti never got shit for fighting in AC. Even Calzage only came over for two fights. None of those guys should be criticized for fighting where they could make the most money. Now it's a little precarious because the money for Ward is in England but he still has a win over Froch which has is just as big of a bargaining chip. I genuinely don't understand the anti Ward sentiment here.

The phrase "you have to come to America to be a star" uttered after a fight which drew a way bigger crowd than he ever has, in somewhere that was not America, just comes across as arrogant and deluded. Add to that the nonsense sour grapes about the fight being "less action packed than the first", and "a draw", and how can you not come to the conclusion that he is petulant ?

[bzkfn]

Carson isn't exactly an hour away by car, it's an hour and a half by plane and 8 in a car. Also Marty Sammons is a tremendous judge and I doubt many camps had worries about him . Judges are chosen by local commissions and the pay isn't enticing enough a lot to have international judges So yes, Ward should get ohout more, I agree but heiisn't the only guy in boxing fjghting close to home.

More importantly, when the hell has any of this stuff mattered? Has he ever been on the receivingend of a ccontroversial decision? Only the Kessler fight can it be argues that he received any preferential treatment and he dominated that bout regardless. Btw, that was Kessler so call to go to Oakland, he thought he would get his road fight out of the way early against the biggest underdog in the Super 6 first round.

Other than that, when has a judge ever protected Ward? If anything the worst judging ever in a Ward fight was in Froch where two judges submitted atrocious cards in favor of Froch. I just don't see why the judges matter?

I hope Ward does fight Froch on the road. Nobody ever alley DLH a homer for fighting in LA and Vegas though. Gatti never got shit for fighting in AC. Even Calzage only came over for two fights. None of those guys should be criticized for fighting where they could make the most money. Now it's a little precarious because the money for Ward is in England but he still has a win over Froch which has is just as big of a bargaining chip. I genuinely don't understand the anti Ward sentiment here.

@amat

I'd say it is more about seeing how he deals with the pressure of not having the crowd on his side than him receiving a hometown decision. You just want to see Ward take a risk and enter the Lions Den. It is unlikely the fight would be in Froch's hometown in the UK as there isn't an arena big enough in Nottingham.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Ward already beat the fuck out of Froch with one hand, what makes you think a rematch would be any different? As for not having any other options? 175 is looking pretty open

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Yeah to be fair Ward should be be looking at Lightheavyweights.

A fight with Trout at 168 might be a sell-out at the Oracle

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I'm just messin, infact I agree. I think Ward could fight at/ around Cruiserweight if it was worth the money. I think his speed/ coordination would look phenomenal at around 185lbs. Just gotta watch those hands.

[bzkfn]

Ward already beat the fuck out of Froch with one hand, what makes you think a rematch would be any different? As for not having any other options? 175 is looking pretty open

Yeah but he brought the best 175lber back to 168, and Hopkins wants to fight Froch, not Ward. Shumanov & Cleverly won't make Ward anywhere near as much money as Froch. Not many believe Froch can beat Ward, but it'd be nice to see how Ward reacts when the cards are not stacked in his favour and he is forced to make a fight. It is the only sign us fans need to see what kind of champion he is, as he has proved himself beyond doubt on every other level.

[IamInuit]

Ward already beat the fuck out of Froch with one hand, what makes you think a rematch would be any different? As for not having any other options? 175 is looking pretty open

Yeah that's another classic. Look, if he did it with one hand then go to England and make an easy 5 million. Whats to get?

In addition its comical that after Dawson offered to come to 168 he would not accept a catch and a chance at 2 titles and yet about 2 weeks after the fight he said in an interview that he may not be able to stay at 168 and may go to 175.

[beenKOed]

Ward already beat the fuck out of Froch with one hand, what makes you think a rematch would be any different? As for not having any other options? 175 is looking pretty open

Yeah that's another classic. Look, if he did it with one hand then go to England and make an easy 5 million. Whats to get?

In addition its comical that after Dawson offered to come to 168 he would not accept a catch and a chance at 2 titles and yet about 2 weeks after the fight he said in an interview that he may not be able to stay at 168 and may go to 175.

I like Ward, but personally, I'd like to see him travel. He would clear up a lot of the BS surrounding him and redirect the conversation to how he fights instead of where he fights.
Where there's smoke there's fire, so until Ward comes out and says something, I'm going to be thinking he said something over the edge or at least very close to the edge.

[IamInuit]

Ward already beat the fuck out of Froch with one hand, what makes you think a rematch would be any different? As for not having any other options? 175 is looking pretty open

Yeah that's another classic. Look, if he did it with one hand then go to England and make an easy 5 million. Whats to get?

In addition its comical that after Dawson offered to come to 168 he would not accept a catch and a chance at 2 titles and yet about 2 weeks after the fight he said in an interview that he may not be able to stay at 168 and may go to 175.

I like Ward, but personally, I'd like to see him travel. He would clear up a lot of the BS surrounding him and redirect the conversation to how he fights instead of where he fights.
Where there's smoke there's fire, so until Ward comes out and says something, I'm going to be thinking he said something over the edge or at least very close to the edge.

I agree and that's what is so puzzling. I think he's the cream of the crop myself and it most likely does not matter where he faces these guys. Just as puzzling is why people thinking a rematch between the Rings #1 and #2 is not worthwhile? I don't like to use the term but its almost borderline retarded. I mean there is an old adage that rematches do not work out to well for the man who lost the first fight. They usually get beat much worse the second time. Well Froch just shit all over that theory and by doing so has earned another kick at the cat.

[ross]

Ward already beat the fuck out of Froch with one hand, what makes you think a rematch would be any different? As for not having any other options? 175 is looking pretty open

Yeah that's another classic. Look, if he did it with one hand then go to England and make an easy 5 million. Whats to get?

In addition its comical that after Dawson offered to come to 168 he would not accept a catch and a chance at 2 titles and yet about 2 weeks after the fight he said in an interview that he may not be able to stay at 168 and may go to 175.

I like Ward, but personally, I'd like to see him travel. He would clear up a lot of the BS surrounding him and redirect the conversation to how he fights instead of where he fights.
Where there's smoke there's fire, so until Ward comes out and says something, I'm going to be thinking he said something over the edge or at least very close to the edge.

I agree and that's what is so puzzling. I think he's the cream of the crop myself and it most likely does not matter where he faces these guys. Just as puzzling is why people thinking a rematch between the Rings #1 and #2 is not worthwhile? I don't like to use the term but its almost borderline retarded. I mean there is an old adage that rematches do not work out to well for the man who lost the first fight. They usually get beat much worse the second time. Well Froch just shit all over that theory and by doing so has earned another kick at the cat.

Gatti Ward, Benn Eubank, Vazquez Marquez, Morales Barrera, Corrales Castillo etc etc

I dont think Ward has any power and he uses the holding because he dosnt have the skills to stand in punching range or the chin to take any shots. He did as much as hes ever going to do over Froch and the one thing that Froch needed to do was just throw punches. He didnt. He hesitated and tried to box. He needs to pour the punches on without loading up on his shots and the fight will be alot closer at least.