Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[Mr140]

I think it is funny you call anyone who gets in the ring scared have you ever done anything as daring i doubt you have ever in your life. As for the peds fuck yea they do them if they can make more money stay longer there on borrowed time, shit you shoot up to if it meant you could keep making money.

[Mr140]

As for Tyson he simple a top ten near the bottom because he lost all his big fights damn near. But he did have a good run before he got smashed. Him losing to top dogs in the 90's Lewis and Holyfeild don't really help his case to be near the top.

[cambay411]

As for Tyson he simple a top ten near the bottom because he lost all his big fights damn near. But he did have a good run before he got smashed. Him losing to top dogs in the 90's Lewis and Holyfeild don't really help his case to be near the top.

I agree with this.

[cambay411]

I think it is funny you call anyone who gets in the ring scared have you ever done anything as daring i doubt you have ever in your life. As for the peds fuck yea they do them if they can make more money stay longer there on borrowed time, shit you shoot up to if it meant you could keep making money.

I feel you on that. Jumping the ring still takes balls.

Im in the ring damn near every day. Was strung out for like 10 years so never messed with ammy's. Only done like hooks for books type things.

Its simple:

Weak fighter- "I need juice to help me keep up with the competition"

Real fighter- "Bring the juicer on im tougher anyway"

[p4pking]

I think it is funny you call anyone who gets in the ring scared have you ever done anything as daring i doubt you have ever in your life. As for the peds fuck yea they do them if they can make more money stay longer there on borrowed time, shit you shoot up to if it meant you could keep making money.

Its simple:

Weak fighter- "I need juice to help me keep up with the competition"

Real fighter- "Bring the juicer on im tougher anyway"

Yea, clearly that's about the jist of it I guarantee that you have that damn near backwards man, journeymen cant AFFORD to take PED's properly and still get around the piss tests, if nothing else. To seriously benefit from something like HGH or EPO, you need supervision and a good deal of cash to get it all. Whats more, is that to think boxers who happen to be elite or established are somehow less moraly compromised than any others is fairly laughable. All kinds of elite fighters, or athletes of any sort are juicing, all the time.

[cambay411]

I think it is funny you call anyone who gets in the ring scared have you ever done anything as daring i doubt you have ever in your life. As for the peds fuck yea they do them if they can make more money stay longer there on borrowed time, shit you shoot up to if it meant you could keep making money.

Its simple:

Weak fighter- "I need juice to help me keep up with the competition"

Real fighter- "Bring the juicer on im tougher anyway"

Yea, clearly that's about the jist of it I guarantee that you have that damn near backwards man, journeymen cant AFFORD to take PED's properly and still get around the piss tests, if nothing else. To seriously benefit from something like HGH or EPO, you need supervision and a good deal of cash to get it all. Whats more, is that to think boxers who happen to be elite or established are somehow less moraly compromised than any others is fairly laughable. All kinds of elite fighters, or athletes of any sort are juicing, all the time.

That shits easy to get and not even that expensive from what I hear. I know several weight lifters who take several different types all at once. From what I hear HGH is the most expensive but is still affordable.

Also, I wasn't aware it costs to get around the drug tests. I thought they just quit a week or two before they got tested and let the testosterone levels taper down.

Elite athletes are more so morally obligated to not use PED's. They have the gifts and the money. If they aren't going to keep their sport real then who is?

Like I said I see some of your points but I am obviously 100% against PED's. Any athlete who uses PED's is basically lieing and saying "i am this good" when they really aren't.

And obviously some of us disagree about how much juice actually helps an athlete. But it doesn't matter how much it helps because even the smallest boost can make huge differences.

ANd the fact is juice improves an athletes performance allowing them to do things they couldn't otherwise.