Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[bradlee180]

RE:"To me it means they are weak and scared and not even true fighters."

Are you still on drugs or suffering residual effects?

These men are in general opportunistic. Give an inch, they'll take your head off. Show weakness, they'll attack it. Many of these men talk quite openly about their fear getting in the ring to do hand-to-hand combat.

[cambay411]

RE:"To me it means they are weak and scared and not even true fighters."

Are you still on drugs or suffering residual effects?

These men are in general opportunistic. Give an inch, they'll take your head off. Show weakness, they'll attack it. Many of these men talk quite openly about their fear getting in the ring to do hand-to-hand combat.

Definately a bit of an over statement. Really didn't mean to call anyone who jumps in the ring scared. I meant more along the lines of scared to lose.

Whats a fighter want the most? To be the best and test themselves. To be the toughest. Of course many will do whatever it takes.

I think many are blinded by wanting to win and be the best and forget about wanting to find out how tough the truly are. I also think in the end they would have to regret it (using PED's)because with the extra help they didn't truly find out what they were made of. Even with all their achievements they know they had help.

[bradlee180]

Ya forgot about professional prizefighters fight for money...

[cambay411]

Ya forgot about professional prizefighters fight for money...

Another reason why especially journey men fighter would turn to juice, good point.

[bradlee180]

I've had enough of attempting a sensible, intelligent discourse with you; it's clearly beyond your drug-damaged capabilities. All you do is get my panties in a bunch; you'll get no christmas card from me, cambay411.

[cambay411]

I've had enough of attempting a sensible, intelligent discourse with you; it's clearly beyond your drug-damaged capabilities. All you do is get my panties in a bunch; you'll get no christmas card from me, cambay411.

I don't understand the insult. I also don't understand how it isn't clear that usng PED's is cheating and can provide an unfair advantage to any athlete.

However I do see the logic in may of your points so I can defiantely agree to disagree.