Do you support the arming of Syrian 'rebels'?

[Kirkland Laing]

In five or ten or twenty years arming them will come back to bite us in the arse and when it does all the clowns like McCain who are advocating arming them will say that nobody could have predicted that arming and training large numbers of jihadi nutcases in the 2010s would cause us problems down the road.

Hey, it worked so well in Afghanistan in the eighties. What could go wrong?

[VictorCharlie]

In five or ten or twenty years arming them will come back to bite us in the arse and when it does all the clowns like McCain who are advocating arming them will say that nobody could have predicted that arming and training large numbers of jihadi nutcases in the 2010s would cause us problems down the road.

Hey, it worked so well in Afghanistan in the eighties. What could go wrong?

I generally agree with this but then hezbollah got involved and it takes all of my will to not fully endorse throwing our weight behind the rebels.

[VictorCharlie]

In five or ten or twenty years arming them will come back to bite us in the arse and when it does all the clowns like McCain who are advocating arming them will say that nobody could have predicted that arming and training large numbers of jihadi nutcases in the 2010s would cause us problems down the road.

Hey, it worked so well in Afghanistan in the eighties. What could go wrong?

I generally agree with this but then hezbollah got involved and it takes all of my will to not fully endorse throwing our weight behind the rebels.

Nevermind.

Report: Syrian rebels executed a 14-year-old boy for insulting Islam

[El Kabong]

The rebels and the Assad regime are no different and they are in a true to life "Civil War" and they should settle it themselves....let them make up their own minds about how to run a country and if they end up doing it wrong we'll slap the shit out of them until they learn to play nice.


I'm not worried how many Syrians get killed....nobody worried about Rwanda or Sudan why is Syria different?

[El Kabong]

Syrian rebels pledge loyalty to al-Qaeda





.....naaaaaah I'm just kidding, I'm not shocked at all

[Dia bando]

Trouble is you don't no who your arming, freedom fighter rebel friend today, enemy tomorrow,!
best stay out of it.!!!!!!!!

[Gandalf]

True Dia Bando and as Robert Fisk observes, the guns are only going to get into the hands of people who would nothing more than to one day blow up America. It is a daft move on the part of the US and the UK and it has nothing to do with us. We don't have the ability to determine who the correct side is. We are also hypocrites as we ignore the rebels being crushed in Bahrain, the Palestinians looking for justice, and yet readily arm a genuine unknown quantity. It will bite us on the arse later on as this war is going to infect far more than Syria now and the sad thing is that almost everybody in the West seems to be against getting involved. General populations are ignored and the pretence at Western democracy is once again shown as an all too obvious hoax.

As the US wants to arm 'nice Syrian rebels' we must remind ourselves that weapons are not just guns. They are about money - Comment - Voices - The Independent

[Kirkland Laing]

In five or ten or twenty years arming them will come back to bite us in the arse and when it does all the clowns like McCain who are advocating arming them will say that nobody could have predicted that arming and training large numbers of jihadi nutcases in the 2010s would cause us problems down the road.

Hey, it worked so well in Afghanistan in the eighties. What could go wrong?

I generally agree with this but then hezbollah got involved and it takes all of my will to not fully endorse throwing our weight behind the rebels.

What's wrong with Hezbollah? They're cuddly freedom fighters. They only exist because Israel invaded their country and wouldn't leave and were starting to annex a big chunk of it that included the water source that provides south Lebanon with its water/agriculture. Hezbollah, peace be upon them, need to keep supply lines to Iran open so they're helping out in Syria. If not Israel eventually invade, steal their water and impoverish them like they're doing to the Palestinians. You can't blame anybody for fighting to defend their country, can you?

Also, too, most of the rebels we'd be arming are Iraq War Re-enactors who you were fighting in Iraq a decade ago. And they'll be fighting against Iraqi Shiite jihadis who have gone to Syria to fight for Assad. Those guys and the Iraqi Shiite government, who are also supporting Assad are people the US army was fighting and dying for to keep in power. That would be fucked up even for American foreign policy.

[El Kabong]

What's wrong with Hezbollah? They're cuddly freedom fighters. They only exist because Israel invaded their country and wouldn't leave and were starting to annex a big chunk of it that included the water source that provides south Lebanon with its water/agriculture. Hezbollah, peace be upon them, need to keep supply lines to Iran open so they're helping out in Syria. If not Israel eventually invade, steal their water and impoverish them like they're doing to the Palestinians. You can't blame anybody for fighting to defend their country, can you?

Also, too, most of the rebels we'd be arming are Iraq War Re-enactors who you were fighting in Iraq a decade ago. And they'll be fighting against Iraqi Shiite jihadis who have gone to Syria to fight for Assad. Those guys and the Iraqi Shiite government, who are also supporting Assad are people the US army was fighting and dying for to keep in power. That would be fucked up even for American foreign policy.

Always blaming Israel is a bit prejudiced Kirkland, they ARE the minority state in that area you know you horrible bigot

[Kirkland Laing]

What's wrong with Hezbollah? They're cuddly freedom fighters. They only exist because Israel invaded their country and wouldn't leave and were starting to annex a big chunk of it that included the water source that provides south Lebanon with its water/agriculture. Hezbollah, peace be upon them, need to keep supply lines to Iran open so they're helping out in Syria. If not Israel eventually invade, steal their water and impoverish them like they're doing to the Palestinians. You can't blame anybody for fighting to defend their country, can you?

Also, too, most of the rebels we'd be arming are Iraq War Re-enactors who you were fighting in Iraq a decade ago. And they'll be fighting against Iraqi Shiite jihadis who have gone to Syria to fight for Assad. Those guys and the Iraqi Shiite government, who are also supporting Assad are people the US army was fighting and dying for to keep in power. That would be fucked up even for American foreign policy.

Always blaming Israel is a bit prejudiced Kirkland, they ARE the minority state in that area you know you horrible bigot

Why did Hezbollah come into existence? Why do they remain in existence?

And I'm fine leaving the bigotry to you Lyle.

[El Kabong]

Why did Hezbollah come into existence? Why do they remain in existence?

And I'm fine leaving the bigotry to you Lyle.

Because Israel had enough of the PLO in South Lebanon lofting rockets into Israel so they decided to do something about it and when the little Lezbos got the crap slapped out of them they cried foul as per usual....."B-b-b-but we can't defeat Israel "

They remain in existence because they much like the other "Palestinians" are the lynch pin behind Arab and Persian unification.

Of course, there's NEVER been a liberal bigot you're a pathetic little bastard you know that? Of course you'd have to because you know EVERYTHING

[Kirkland Laing]

Why did Hezbollah come into existence? Why do they remain in existence?

And I'm fine leaving the bigotry to you Lyle.

Because Israel had enough of the PLO in South Lebanon lofting rockets into Israel so they decided to do something about it and when the little Lezbos got the crap slapped out of them they cried foul as per usual....."B-b-b-but we can't defeat Israel "

They remain in existence because they much like the other "Palestinians" are the lynch pin behind Arab and Persian unification.

Of course, there's NEVER been a liberal bigot you're a pathetic little bastard you know that? Of course you'd have to because you know EVERYTHING

Calm down, Uncle Daddy. As usual you're just ranting away here. This is too nonsensical to try and answer but where and how are Sunni Arabs and Shiite Persians trying to unify?

[VictorCharlie]

My issue with Hezbollah isn't that they oppose Israel (the anti-semitic rhetoric isn't endearing though) but rather that they are simply a proxy of Iran and not necessarily the legitemate military of Lebanon. If we agree that the US should stop meddling in other countries then this should hold true for Iran as well. Regardless, when it comes to Israel VS Hezbollah no one is innocent or the good guy. Anyway as responded to your first post I agree the right thing to do is not touch it with a 10 foot pole.

[Beanz]

Whilst Russia and others continue to arm the regime inactivity is no longer passive. The ideal solution may not exist but surely pressure on those who are propping up the regime to desist would at least allow the war that is happening anyway, to not be prolonged. Or is the converse true ? I have no idea but am wary of suggesting doing nothing is in some way standing up for the oppressed. I hope I am wrong but Kirkland and Miles seem to be more interested in point scoring and demonizing any intervention by the west in any of these situations, than actually being concerned with civilians being killed and that is a bit sad.

[El Kabong]

Whilst Russia and others continue to arm the regime inactivity is no longer passive. The ideal solution may not exist but surely pressure on those who are propping up the regime to desist would at least allow the war that is happening anyway, to not be prolonged. Or is the converse true ? I have no idea but am wary of suggesting doing nothing is in some way standing up for the oppressed. I hope I am wrong but Kirkland and Miles seem to be more interested in point scoring and demonizing any intervention by the west in any of these situations, than actually being concerned with civilians being killed and that is a bit sad.

I certainly don't give a fuck what happens in Syria it's THEIR Civil War.....why give weapons (and money which we don't fucking have) to some dopes with the same views on the Western World as the Assad regime

If we help then we're helping people who want to kill us and many will die in their wake and if we don't help the other group that wants to kill us will win and many will die in their wake....it's a no win situation.