Please take the time to do this for you and your families future health.

[Andre]

Obama signs 'Monsanto Protection Act' written by Monsanto-sponsored senator — RT USA


I dont trust him either bro.

[VictorCharlie]

It seems like you are seeing correlation with some of that and assuming causation. I'm no friend of mega agri-business but I also enjoy not paying through the nose for good produce. We try to balance price with desire. When we can afford it we do mostly organic and local. Anyway, I think the scrutiny on Monsanto is justified but the gmo=bad crowd just seems oblivious to the amount of people in the world that don't go hungry b/c of GMO foods. It doesn't help that in the US the anti-GMO crowd is also the anti-vaccine crowd.

[Andre]

Yeah you are right, some people are even anti the non anti and the anti like some hobby.

[Gandalf]

It isn't conpiracy theory and the records show what is happening to the crops produced by farmers and the number of corporations distributing seeds. Corporations are basically taking out patents on crop variations and are trying to stamp out resistance on the part of farmers and it has been happening for 50 years. We are heading towards what is a corporate monopoly on basic seeds, which is very bad news.

As for GM foods helping to stamp out global hunger and keep costs down. Well, 35% price increases over 5 years to people in the West is an awful lot more than that to people in most parts of the world. The corporations have the seeds under wraps and they have also now got the markets in their hands too.

These developments are NOT about stopping people going hungry, they are about control and profit.

[VictorCharlie]

It isn't conpiracy theory and the records show what is happening to the crops produced by farmers and the number of corporations distributing seeds. Corporations are basically taking out patents on crop variations and are trying to stamp out resistance on the part of farmers and it has been happening for 50 years. We are heading towards what is a corporate monopoly on basic seeds, which is very bad news.

As for GM foods helping to stamp out global hunger and keep costs down. Well, 35% price increases over 5 years to people in the West is an awful lot more than that to people in most parts of the world. The corporations have the seeds under wraps and they have also now got the markets in their hands too.

These developments are NOT about stopping people going hungry, they are about control and profit.

What exactly are you talking about in the bolded part? Please provide a link to support it. As a family of 5 we pay close attention to our grocery bill and it hasn't gone up by 35%. Regardless there are a multitude of factors that affect price so suggesting that the overwhelming cause is Agri-Business Conglomerates price gouging farmers seems a bit daft. This article from your countrymen suggests bad weather has a much bigger role.

BBC News - Q&A: Why food prices and fuel costs are going up

As far as the patents go, do you really think a company that spends millions on r&d to create a drought/bug/herbicide resistant seed shouldn't be allowed to maintain some proprietary rights? I'm not naive to think that Monsanto makes these things out of the goodness of their heart but you cannot deny that them and companies like them design seeds/plants that can be grown in places they otherwise either wouldn't at all or wouldn't in the amount they do now which results in a reduction in world hunger.

[Gandalf]

Food crop diversity is diminishing and seed distribution has become largely monopolised by a handful of corporations and I mean that in particular reference to the US. There are plenty of seeds, but they are frankenstein seeds and provided by only a few corporations and in particular Monsanto. Farmers are sued if their crop is infected with these strands and once they buy seeds from these companies they are not allowed to retain them. It is highly unethical and seemingly supported by US law. A basic Google search will supply you with data that you know already. Corporations like Monsanta have practically unchecked control over food markets and unchecked in the way that too many things are unchecked in America.

DuPont says U.S. must curb Monsanto seed monopoly | Reuters

Again with regard to food prices, if you follow the news as I am sure you do, then you will know that food prices are rampant. It's there in the news and I am sure most have experienced it. I certainly have, so it is definitely not a news conspiracy. 2008 was a bumper year for harvests and yet hey presto prices went up massively. You always hear about the weather etc, but food commodities markets were a significant factor. They have been for over a decade now. Food increases have been above inflation for a long time and over half a decade have gone up around 35% for the average Brit. Once the prices go up, they don't come down. Pick a year and it is easy to find articles such as this.

Food inflation 'could go beyond 10pc before next year' - Telegraph


It is no coincidence that monopolisation of the seed also resulted in record busting increases in the cost of new seeds. It is market control both at the distribution level and then when you factor in heavy speculation, what you end up with is very expensive food and food that isn't statistically reducing global hunger in the slightest. It is making a few very rich and creating havoc in the ordinary lives of hundreds of millions. In fact more Americans are going hungry than at any stage in decades, so it isn't even just a problem having to be faced by the global poor.

You would think with genetically superior products that weather would be a fading excuse, but surprisingly it only ever gets worse and costs never stop rising and farmers and consumers alike suffer at the hands of insidious monopolistic corporations. It is because it isn't just down to the weather, it is other factors equally significant and they get downplayed by a biased mainstream media.

[Andre]

Come in @VictorCharlie do you copy, I only have one issue with the basic inoculation thing and thats they are given not on the body weight of children just on age, same dose for the lot of them,of course some slender lightweight kids are going to get double the risk of side effects if they are that way inclined already then those one will be well fucked by it.
Over.

[VictorCharlie]

Food crop diversity is diminishing and seed distribution has become largely monopolised by a handful of corporations and I mean that in particular reference to the US. There are plenty of seeds, but they are frankenstein seeds and provided by only a few corporations and in particular Monsanto. Farmers are sued if their crop is infected with these strands and once they buy seeds from these companies they are not allowed to retain them. It is highly unethical and seemingly supported by US law. A basic Google search will supply you with data that you know already. Corporations like Monsanta have practically unchecked control over food markets and unchecked in the way that too many things are unchecked in America.

Your article says Monsanto's biggest competitor (Dow Chemical) is claiming that Monsanto has a monopoly. Well color me shocked that one massive agri-business wants the government to help its market share against another massive agri-business. Hell the article also states that there are over 4k different corn variations and 2k soy in the market. That sounds like there are a lot of options out there just not of the drought/herbicide resistant kind. There's 100% freedom. No one is forced to buy Monsanto soybeans. You can buy from another company. You can save soybean seed from a non-patented variety. You can go to your local university and get seed from a publicly-developed or heirloom variety and start your own freaking company. Monsanto has a monopoly on herbicide resistant soy and some other specific staple crops b/c their patented seed allows farmers to plant almost twice as much per acre. Spend some time at a grain elevator or coop and you will see there are plenty of options they just aren't as good as the resistant strains. Now your portion about farmers being sued b/c Monsanto seeds blew into their fields is totally false.
There is no record of this every happening but there is a record of farmers using this as a defense once they were found growing Monsanto plant w/o paying for the seeds. Hell Monsanto has flat stated they won't sue for this. PUBPAT > Appeals Court Binds Monsanto To Promise Not To Sue Organic Farmers Monstanto's price increases are also having a negative effect on their market share. More US farmers planting non-GMO soybeans this year

Again with regard to food prices, if you follow the news as I am sure you do, then you will know that food prices are rampant. It's there in the news and I am sure most have experienced it. I certainly have, so it is definitely not a news conspiracy. 2008 was a bumper year for harvests and yet hey presto prices went up massively. You always hear about the weather etc, but food commodities markets were a significant factor. They have been for over a decade now. Food increases have been above inflation for a long time and over half a decade have gone up around 35% for the average Brit. Once the prices go up, they don't come down. Pick a year and it is easy to find articles such as this.

Your article says nothing about a GMO monopoly causing the price increase but strangely enough does mention weather patterns and inflation.

It is no coincidence that monopolisation of the seed also resulted in record busting increases in the cost of new seeds. It is market control both at the distribution level and then when you factor in heavy speculation, what you end up with is very expensive food and food that isn't statistically reducing global hunger in the slightest. It is making a few very rich and creating havoc in the ordinary lives of hundreds of millions. In fact more Americans are going hungry than at any stage in decades, so it isn't even just a problem having to be faced by the global poor.

You would think with genetically superior products that weather would be a fading excuse, but surprisingly it only ever gets worse and costs never stop rising and farmers and consumers alike suffer at the hands of insidious monopolistic corporations. It is because it isn't just down to the weather, it is other factors equally significant and they get downplayed by a biased mainstream media.

So again you are drawing false conclusions that you can't seem to support and then claiming causation when you are actually struggling to even show causation. Stick to Korea buddy, as usual you aren't nearly as smart on the US as you think you are.