Danny Garcia- not to be over-shadowed!

[ElTerribleMorales]

Its obvious to everyone that khan is a better boxer than his opposition but styles makes fights and after khans last performance i dont think virgil would be comfortable in putting him in with garcia.

Why not move up to welter and get as close to you can the biggest payday in his career as its obvious he is not the best at 140 and never will be.

All im saying is garcia deserves some credit for what he has achieved and both him and his father are good for boxing.

The fact is Khan is what Garcia has achieved. What has he done since? fought a shot Morales and struggled with Judah. Has he fought Maidana? Did he finish Judah in 5 rounds ? Has he fought Lamont Peterson ? Garcia has to earn credit. You keep bringing up Khan as though Khan is avoiding Garcia. Khan would jump straight in with Matthysse. Garcia wouldn't even rematch Khan let alone fight Lucas.

that's why Khan chose Julio Diaz of all the talent at 140 as his comeback opponent right? and that's why he's jumping up to 147 now, as for rematches, we're still waiting for rematches against Prescott and Maidana, so lets not try to play the Amir takes on all comers card

[ykdadamaja]

Garcia's upside is the best one in American boxing at this time, and better than anyone between 130 and 160lbs- better than Golovkin.

Reason why? I don't see anyone giving Garcia any REAL trouble until he faces Canelo or Floyd. But Golovkin has a heap of talent to run through- Dirrell, Ward, Andrade, Hopkins, Stevenson, Bute, Froch, Abhraham, Sturm, etc, etc....

I do admit- Golovkin's dance card certainly has the potential to be better than Garcia's.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Garcia's upside is the best one in American boxing at this time, and better than anyone between 130 and 160lbs- better than Golovkin.

Reason why? I don't see anyone giving Garcia any REAL trouble until he faces Canelo or Floyd. But Golovkin has a heap of talent to run through- Dirrell, Ward, Andrade, Hopkins, Stevenson, Bute, Froch, Abhraham, Sturm, etc, etc....

I do admit- Golovkin's dance card certainly has the potential to be better than Garcia's.

Golovkin easily runs through Abraham, Sturm, and pretty much anyone at 160 (Martinez is already on the slide and is constantly getting injured), and doubt he's gonna make the jump to 168 any time soon much less to 175

[imp]

Its obvious to everyone that khan is a better boxer than his opposition but styles makes fights and after khans last performance i dont think virgil would be comfortable in putting him in with garcia.

Why not move up to welter and get as close to you can the biggest payday in his career as its obvious he is not the best at 140 and never will be.

All im saying is garcia deserves some credit for what he has achieved and both him and his father are good for boxing.

The fact is Khan is what Garcia has achieved. What has he done since? fought a shot Morales and struggled with Judah. Has he fought Maidana? Did he finish Judah in 5 rounds ? Has he fought Lamont Peterson ? Garcia has to earn credit. You keep bringing up Khan as though Khan is avoiding Garcia. Khan would jump straight in with Matthysse. Garcia wouldn't even rematch Khan let alone fight Lucas.

that's why Khan chose Julio Diaz of all the talent at 140 as his comeback opponent right? and that's why he's jumping up to 147 now, as for rematches, we're still waiting for rematches against Prescott and Maidana, so lets not try to play the Amir takes on all comers card

Exactly.

One rule for khan.
Another for garcia.

Khan can fight garcia another ten times but it wont save him as garcia will simply beat him up.

[erics44]

this thread is getting a bit hairy

i think garcia looks very good, very tough and strong and hits hard enough

might sound daft but he is better than he looks (i think )

whos he fighting next?

[imp]

The thing with khan is that when someone hurts him and knocks him out it takes something away from him permanently.

Khan is just not tough enough to beat garcia. You can pull out all garcias old opponents and how he struggled with guy and etc but the bottom line is he had and will always have khans number.
Its the same with prescott.

Khan just fought a guy 8 years past his prime and was knockdown twice and never really hurt his opponent. Khan is a nice guy with great boxing skills but the blueprint is there for all to see..rough him up in the second half of the fight and his punch resistance will drown.

[erics44]

The thing with khan is that when someone hurts him and knocks him out it takes something away from him permanently.

Khan is just not tough enough to beat garcia. You can pull out all garcias old opponents and how he struggled with guy and etc but the bottom line is he had and will always have khans number.
Its the same with prescott.

Khan just fought a guy 8 years past his prime and was knockdown twice and never really hurt his opponent. Khan is a nice guy with great boxing skills but the blueprint is there for all to see..rough him up in the second half of the fight and his punch resistance will drown.

khans career is far from over, hes got a few big wins left in him yet

[imp]

The thing with khan is that when someone hurts him and knocks him out it takes something away from him permanently.

Khan is just not tough enough to beat garcia. You can pull out all garcias old opponents and how he struggled with guy and etc but the bottom line is he had and will always have khans number.
Its the same with prescott.

Khan just fought a guy 8 years past his prime and was knockdown twice and never really hurt his opponent. Khan is a nice guy with great boxing skills but the blueprint is there for all to see..rough him up in the second half of the fight and his punch resistance will drown.

khans career is far from over, hes got a few big wins left in him yet

Against lightweights

[Beanflicker]

Khan just fought a guy 8 years past his prime and was knockdown twice and never really hurt his opponent. Khan is a nice guy with great boxing skills but the blueprint is there for all to see..rough him up in the second half of the fight and his punch resistance will drown.

I dunno... maybe Khan can pull off a Wlad Klitschko and find a way to not get KTFO all the time hehe

[erics44]

over shaddowed ?

[imp]

Khan just fought a guy 8 years past his prime and was knockdown twice and never really hurt his opponent. Khan is a nice guy with great boxing skills but the blueprint is there for all to see..rough him up in the second half of the fight and his punch resistance will drown.

I dunno... maybe Khan can pull off a Wlad Klitschko and find a way to not get KTFO all the time hehe

Khan is exciting with wicked handspeed but does not have Wlad massive size and jab to dictate fights.

But you are correct when mentioning the comparison (joke or not) Wlad is another one that hates to fight and turns into a big girls blouse and gets flustered when it gets rough.

Both khan and Wlad have issues with fighting and suffer intermittent punch resistance but if they stick to boxing that is their safe little warm cosy place.

[imp]

Danny garcia next fight needs to be mattysshe or karim mayfield.

There is no other options and september will prove whether garcia is the top dog of the divison or not.

[Beanflicker]

If Garcia whips Matthyse, I'll be all in.

[Master]

Garcia is far from a complete fighter. He does pack a dynamite left hook, his right hand is a bit wild and he does fight at a slow pace. I think Matthysse has the beating of him and Khan would have stopped him mid way. He is a relatively good fighter but not great.

[Rantcatrat]

Khan just needs to face light punchers and stay away from guys with knockout power. Devon Alexander or Timothy Bradley would be good tests at 147.