Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[Master]

Master then Tyson can't be great because he never came back at all he never avenged a lose. I mean he just mental would give up not to many great fighters do that. I mean his last fight he just sat on the ground looking at the ref to count to ten. I mean Holyfeild was inconsistent at times but he had great come backs and way better wins if he fought in a weak era might of been different. Point being he showed hart never gave up and captured the title as much as Ali did was the only one to do it. Not to mention he started out at lhw and was already a unified cw before coming a unified hw he is great.

I do not think losing to Moorer, being nearly knocked out by Cooper makes him a heavyweight great. He was strong but dumb.

I also thought we can all agreed that he was on drugs to do what he did.

[Mr140]

Master there is no way i can not put Holyfeild in the top ten hw he has a better resume then most of them in there. Moorer was better fighter then most of the shit Tyson fought in the 80's and you know what Holyfeild did after the lose he knocked him the fuck out in a rematch. You know what Tyson did when he lost bit a ear off in the rematch or not have one. Tyson career was during the weakest era since Rocky dude it was bad. I know your fan and mad Holyfeild kicked your boys ass and all but come on saying Holyfeild was not a great fighter makes me think your dumb.

[ICB]

Master then Tyson can't be great because he never came back at all he never avenged a lose. I mean he just mental would give up not to many great fighters do that. I mean his last fight he just sat on the ground looking at the ref to count to ten. I mean Holyfeild was inconsistent at times but he had great come backs and way better wins if he fought in a weak era might of been different. Point being he showed hart never gave up and captured the title as much as Ali did was the only one to do it. Not to mention he started out at lhw and was already a unified cw before coming a unified hw he is great.

I do not think losing to Moorer, being nearly knocked out by Cooper makes him a heavyweight great. He was strong but dumb.

I also thought we can all agreed that he was on drugs to do what he did.

I don't agree that struggling against a lesser fighter doesn't make you great, look at Joe Louis he was floored and in trouble against Tony Galento, i don't see anyone question Joe Louis not being great.

I know Holyfield isn't on that level, but i think his exciting fights, courage, moving up from Cruiserweight to become Heavyweight champion, does make him great.

[Master]

A great fighter but not a great heavyweight champion.

Tyson would have koed Moored in a round.

[Spicoli]

Woulda-coulda etc. ironically that's exactly what The Ring predicted he would do to Evander Holyfield when the met