Everyone seems to forget the first knockdown of the marquez pacqiou fight. MArquez was on roids, it was much more than a well timed punch. To answer your question , no they weren't that bad. he is the second best fighter of our generation and top ten p4p imo. He still has a couple good fights in him but i doubt he can be himself again after a loss that bad. But then again he seems to have that personality unlike a Roy jones where it wont mess with him mentally, the big question is if there is any lingering physical damage. And i would absolutly love to see him fight floyd, depite everything i think he is the toughest fight for floyd, floyd has trouble with akward fighters, and southpaws, pacqiou is both, but ill still take floyd to dig deep and come out on top.