Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
BOTH Klitschkos, Lennox Lewis, ...... come on, if these guys were even 6 foot 3 like Ali or Holmes, and had say a 79 or 80 inch reach only (rather than their , what, 85 inch reaches?) they wouldn't have been around even half as long as they were.

I am really starting to think that size is all that matters (90% anyway) in the heavyweight division as their is no ceiling there, no higher division they must not weigh into.

Lennox Lewis and the K brothers could block punches from a mile away just by extending their gargantuan arms forward and back peddling at the same time.

Like wise they could land overhand rights from halfway across the ring by throwing the punch and coming forward---the opponent even taking 4 steps backwards would still be on the end of the punch. Look at the punch Lennox Lewis landed on Vitali which cut his eye. He threw it from Mid-Ring and even with Vitali pulling back 3 steps in reverse the punch arched over the ring and came down about 15 feet later like a rainbow zooming in from outer space. If Lewis or Klitschkos had a standard reach of 78 inches or so, half of their punches would not have reached their target.

And as for height---goddamit, lets see most normal-sized fighters try to reach their fucking chins at 6 feet 5 and above.

These fighters would not have been shit were it not for their unusual size. Don't give me examples now of huge fighters who sucked. That will not disprove my points.

You are just trying to make the facts fit criteria that prove your argument. Holmes had an 81 inch reach and Lewis an 84 inch reach, Not 80 and 85 respectively. So you are adding an Inch to Lewis and taking one from Holmes. Then later in your argument you state that Lewis and the Klitschkos would need a standard reach of 78 inch to not be considered shit. Meanwhile Ali at 80 inches and Homes at 81 have their reaches shrunk by two or three inches to again, fit your argument. What about Vitali he has a 79 inch reach, that is shorter than Ali or Holmes ? What about the fact that Lewis fought many guys who were around his size or bigger and managed to beat them all. They can't all have been shit. Vitali has much closer to a standard reach than your examples with 79 inches and so your assertion that half his punches would not have reached his target if he did not have such a freaky reach is incorrect.

As for normal sized fighters ? what the hell is that? Granted at 6 foot 7 Vitali is very tall but Lewis at 6ft 5 was shorter than some of the fighters he fought and only a couple inches taller than most. Nearly all heavyweights are over 6 foot tall and even a small one like Haye is 6ft 3. The same Haye who despite having the mythical average 78 inch reach managed to hit Wlad flush and go many more rounds than most of Wlads bigger opponents. Your argument does not hold up to much scrutiny.