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    At least Broner is making things interesting, he could have stayed at lightweight and defended against a mandatory but instead does something unconventional and he should be praised for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    At least Broner is making things interesting, he could have stayed at lightweight and defended against a mandatory but instead does something unconventional and he should be praised for it.
    Burns wouldnt fight him so was very little point sticking around. But would have preferred him to go to 140 rather then 147 but guess they thought the holders at that weight are a little too dangerous for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    At least Broner is making things interesting, he could have stayed at lightweight and defended against a mandatory but instead does something unconventional and he should be praised for it.
    Burns wouldnt fight him so was very little point sticking around. But would have preferred him to go to 140 rather then 147 but guess they thought the holders at that weight are a little too dangerous for him
    They were all busy at 140lb so he thought he would go up a further weight.
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    I don't think fighting Malignaggj when you are on the cusp of P4P list qualifies a balls. I would think it takes more balls to get in the ring with PDL no matter the weight.

    Anyways, I will try not to judge to harshly but Broner literally slept through that fight. It was as unimpressive of a "title" win as I've ever seen. He will not beat many people fighting on such awkward footing. He rarely put himself in position to counter especially to the body. He had no answers except to just take the body shots because they came from Malignaggi. He also can't move laterally! He's not developing and is probably regressing instead.

    How many people are lighter hitters than Paulie? I can't think. Even Winky and Whitaker had enough pop to get people's respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    I don't think fighting Malignaggj when you are on the cusp of P4P list qualifies a balls. I would think it takes more balls to get in the ring with PDL no matter the weight.

    Anyways, I will try not to judge to harshly but Broner literally slept through that fight. It was as unimpressive of a "title" win as I've ever seen. He will not beat many people fighting on such awkward footing. He rarely put himself in position to counter especially to the body. He had no answers except to just take the body shots because they came from Malignaggi. He also can't move laterally! He's not developing and is probably regressing instead.

    How many people are lighter hitters than Paulie? I can't think. Even Winky and Whitaker had enough pop to get people's respect.
    Bang on. I was trying to think of that earlier as well, nobody with any kind of standing in the sport has been as feather fisted for ages unless I'm just gapping out. Combine that with the fact that he is no bigger than BRoner at all, and it really doesn't make the weight jump anything special. Winky and Pernell hit WAY harder than Malignaggi, doesn't even need to be said. They obviously weren't powerful but nobody ever dreamed of just giving them a target, they could've hurt anybody they ever fought in the case. Both of those guys gave up way more size than Broner did to Paulie on many occasions as well obviously. I do wonder what the hell Broners game plan will be when he fights a welterweight who can get his respect. Based on last night he's up shits creek imo.

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    Paulie can't punch worth a shit, he's probably the most pathetic punching "champion" in boxing history, but say what you will about him he's a solid fighter and he's only been beaten by prime Cotto, Hatton and Khan (the first Juan Diaz decision was BS). He's a slick, crafty guy who's beaten a lot of solid fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    I don't think fighting Malignaggj when you are on the cusp of P4P list qualifies a balls. I would think it takes more balls to get in the ring with PDL no matter the weight.

    Anyways, I will try not to judge to harshly but Broner literally slept through that fight. It was as unimpressive of a "title" win as I've ever seen. He will not beat many people fighting on such awkward footing. He rarely put himself in position to counter especially to the body. He had no answers except to just take the body shots because they came from Malignaggi. He also can't move laterally! He's not developing and is probably regressing instead.

    How many people are lighter hitters than Paulie? I can't think. Even Winky and Whitaker had enough pop to get people's respect.
    I was reading plenty of excitement, during the fight, about how well Paulie was doing in many posts.
    You can talk all you want about money but it doesn't signify, Broner is making good money everytime he fights.
    Broner fights all the time--I like that about him--if fights aren't coming to him he goes looking for one.
    Everyone knows how Paulie won the title and everyone knows Broner was cherry picking poor totally overrated Paulie until Paulie made a fight out of it for 4 or 5 rounds. Anything can happen in a fight, so tell me the fighter you pick to step up two divisions and win a belt in the last half of 2013 or 2014.

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    If we're talking about work ethics, I still laude Donaire for the sheer amount of activity last year and some truly solid opponents and two..not so much. Though that can't be really helped.

    Broner on the other hand...well PDL kicked his butt well and I honestly think he ran outa of his division so he wouldn't fight Vasquez, if you thought Paulie was slick then you really should see Vasquez run circles and jabs around his opponent. Broner reminds me of Vargas in a sense that he's got lead in his feet. The boxing gods have mercy on him if he ever fights Bradley as I think he's far better at lateral movement than Alexander is.

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