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    Default Re: How far would Joe Mesi have gone?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I think 'Baby Joe' had a great career although it's sad it got cut a little short. 36 (29 KO)-0-0 is a pretty good record. Sure he didn't fight many of the "big names" but he won and won all the time. I think he could have been on track to win the WBA title which during his time was in the hands of Ruiz, Holyfield, Valuev, and Chagaev. Fights vs Ruiz and Valuev may have been best for him, because as a pressure fighter and slugger he would have his work cut out for him vs a guy like Chagaev or a guy like Holyfield.

    There was a time where he could have troubled Wladimir with his power, but that was a small window and it got nailed firmly shut after Wlad beat Sam Peter.

    Joe Mesi could have been in some great brawls and hell he was in some solid brawls but smaller heavyweights like Ibragimov, Chagaev, James Toney, Brian Minto, Vinnie Maddalone, etc would have been very solid fights for Joe...Adamek, Cunningham, guys like that.

    'Baby' Joe's style wouldn't have lasted, but I think with his heart he would have been a live dog in most fights because he's the kind of guy who doesn't quit easily.
    Totally agree with everything said here. If anything he was an overachiever and would have pre injury competed with the contenders today. For example I think he would walk over Mitchell. I really enjoyed his fights. He reminded me a lot of Chuvalo in the ring with a little more boxing savvy. Like Chuvalo he was and is a class act outside the ring also.

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    Yeah Chuvalo or Jerry Quarry, maybe even Scott Ledoux. Baby Joe was tenacious, but he was a bit small, not ever in extremely great shape (if he was it would have helped him tremendously because he did fade late in fights) but he was a good fighter and fun fighter to watch. I think with his power he could have put a scare in Tyson Fury and maybe dropped him.

    Joe could punch now...I don't think he gets much credit for how hard he actually hit, but he could bang pretty good.

    There was a time when Taylor vs Lacy and Mesi vs Guinn were the fights on a lot of American boxing fans minds....shame all of those guys really went down hill quick. That HBO B.A.D special with the 3 heavyweight fights: Mesi vs Williamson, Guinn vs Dokiwari, Peter vs Farley.....that was a GREAT night of fights very solid
    Last edited by El Kabong; 06-24-2013 at 08:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Yeah Chuvalo or Jerry Quarry, maybe even Scott Ledoux. Baby Joe was tenacious, but he was a bit small, not ever in extremely great shape (if he was it would have helped him tremendously because he did fade late in fights) but he was a good fighter and fun fighter to watch. I think with his power he could have put a scare in Tyson Fury and maybe dropped him.

    Joe could punch now...I don't think he gets much credit for how hard he actually hit, but he could bang pretty good.

    There was a time when Taylor vs Lacy and Mesi vs Guinn were the fights on a lot of American boxing fans minds....shame all of those guys really went down hill quick. That HBO B.A.D special with the 3 heavyweight fights: Mesi vs Williamson, Guinn vs Dokiwari, Peter vs Farley.....that was a GREAT night of fights very solid
    Duncan Dokiwari was a BEAST of a man. Cut out of stone. Saw one of his early fights recently on Tuesday Night Fights Knockouts and he was 242 or something, crushed his opponent.

    Too bad he shit the bed against Guinn.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Yeah Chuvalo or Jerry Quarry, maybe even Scott Ledoux. Baby Joe was tenacious, but he was a bit small, not ever in extremely great shape (if he was it would have helped him tremendously because he did fade late in fights) but he was a good fighter and fun fighter to watch. I think with his power he could have put a scare in Tyson Fury and maybe dropped him.

    Joe could punch now...I don't think he gets much credit for how hard he actually hit, but he could bang pretty good.

    There was a time when Taylor vs Lacy and Mesi vs Guinn were the fights on a lot of American boxing fans minds....shame all of those guys really went down hill quick. That HBO B.A.D special with the 3 heavyweight fights: Mesi vs Williamson, Guinn vs Dokiwari, Peter vs Farley.....that was a GREAT night of fights very solid
    Duncan Dokiwari was a BEAST of a man. Cut out of stone. Saw one of his early fights recently on Tuesday Night Fights Knockouts and he was 242 or something, crushed his opponent.

    Too bad he shit the bed against Guinn.
    Dont judge a book by its cover dude. Dunkin Dokiwari only LOOKED like a beast with his physique but he wasn't shit as a boxer.

    DOkiwari was never a factor ..

    Mesi wouldnt have gone too far imo. I remember MOnte Barrett giving him all he could handle..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Yeah Chuvalo or Jerry Quarry, maybe even Scott Ledoux. Baby Joe was tenacious, but he was a bit small, not ever in extremely great shape (if he was it would have helped him tremendously because he did fade late in fights) but he was a good fighter and fun fighter to watch. I think with his power he could have put a scare in Tyson Fury and maybe dropped him.

    Joe could punch now...I don't think he gets much credit for how hard he actually hit, but he could bang pretty good.

    There was a time when Taylor vs Lacy and Mesi vs Guinn were the fights on a lot of American boxing fans minds....shame all of those guys really went down hill quick. That HBO B.A.D special with the 3 heavyweight fights: Mesi vs Williamson, Guinn vs Dokiwari, Peter vs Farley.....that was a GREAT night of fights very solid
    Duncan Dokiwari was a BEAST of a man. Cut out of stone. Saw one of his early fights recently on Tuesday Night Fights Knockouts and he was 242 or something, crushed his opponent.

    Too bad he shit the bed against Guinn.
    Dont judge a book by its cover dude. Dunkin Dokiwari only LOOKED like a beast with his physique but he wasn't shit as a boxer.

    DOkiwari was never a factor ..

    Mesi wouldnt have gone too far imo. I remember MOnte Barrett giving him all he could handle..
    Never said he was a factor. Watch some his early fights, he could bang.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: How far would Joe Mesi have gone?

    Joe Mesi had reached his level , if he had fought any of the worlds elite , he would have been KOED.

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    I thought Joe Mesi was unlucky against Jirov, he was schooling him for 8 rounds. Then got hit on the back of the head, and that seemed to damage him and he never recovered from it. I thought Joe Mesi was pretty solid his 1st round win over Williamson was impressive. He would of lost to either Klitschko, but anyone else he would of been competitive with.

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    just as a boxing fan I'm sad that we didn't get to see Mesi vs some top competition. Say what you want about him but he always came to fight.

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    Default Re: How far would Joe Mesi have gone?

    I think he went about as far as he could with what he brought to the table. A solid tough no frills guy who didn't duck from a fight. Once again, I had Jirov and Barrett beating him and he was taking many many flush shots there and I truly think his resulting condition had as much to do with that as a late shot etc. He did commentary for a while after and was actually outstanding.

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    Default Re: How far would Joe Mesi have gone?

    Jirov came to the gym I worked at to get sparring for that fight.

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