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    Default Re: Interested to hear any criticisms of Lennox Lewis here

    Quote Originally Posted by tysonesque View Post
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    I think he was a boring fighter and was the blueprint for Wlad who has taken it to the extreme. I watch a lot of older fights in my freetime, but I avoid Lewis like the plague. Just a boring man and a boring fighter. It was a joke fighting Tyson 15 years after his best and acting like it would seal the deal on his career.
    It did seal the deal on his career. There were loads of "experts" picking Tyson. He hadn't lost since Holyfield. It was never viewed as a mismatch. It was the highest earning fight in history (second now to Oscar-Floyd).

    Just imagine how many threads, and how many thousands of boxing fans today, would be claiming "Tyson would have killed Lewis" had that fight not taken place?
    You've got to be kidding.

    Tyson was completely shot when he fought Lewis and was blowing hard after a couple of rounds. He was there for the taking and basically little more than an exhibition fighter at the time. He only ever had a puncher's chance and that was it.

    Had they fought at Tyson's peak, Lewis would have been knocked out, no question. Anyone who gets stiffed by McCall and Rahman and struggles with an old Ray Mercer and Frank Bruno is not going to last very long with a peak Tyson.

    The way Lewis talks anyone would think he had beaten the best fighters in their prime. The truth is he fought an old and knackered Tyson and a pretty much shot Holyfield. As I said, right place, right time.

    He was also one of the most boring heavyweight champions in and out of the ring.
    No i'm not kidding.

    Whether or not Tyson was "shot" when he fought Lewis, the reality is, tons of fans and certain "experts" were still picking him to win. That is a fact.

    Lewis was a 1/2 favourite. To put that in perspective for people that don't understand odds -

    Floyd is a 1/4 favourite over Canelo.
    Pac is a 1/6 favourite over Rios.
    Wlad is a 1/8 favourite over Povetkin.

    What that means is - Lewis was deemed much more likey to lose than these fighters.

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    Default Re: Interested to hear any criticisms of Lennox Lewis here

    Tyson shot when he gets his ass kicked pretty much when he wins he on point lol. The excuses for him make me laugh i mean Loses to 40 to 1 Douglas then to a 20 to 1 Holyfeild what great fighter does that. As for him being not tip top shape or in prime ask Ali what he did when he was on slide.

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    Default Re: Interested to hear any criticisms of Lennox Lewis here

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Tyson shot when he gets his ass kicked pretty much when he wins he on point lol. The excuses for him make me laugh i mean Loses to 40 to 1 Douglas then to a 20 to 1 Holyfeild what great fighter does that. As for him being not tip top shape or in prime ask Ali what he did when he was on slide.
    The reason why the odds were so good was because he was a quality fighter even when he was an old shell of a fighter who had been in prison and screwed by his promoter.
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    Default Re: Interested to hear any criticisms of Lennox Lewis here

    The myth about Lennox's chin is just that, a myth. The punches that stopped him would have stopped anyone today or yesterday. And another thing, there is no freakin way that Lewis would have been able to take those bombs from Vitali if he had a soft chin.

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    Default Re: Interested to hear any criticisms of Lennox Lewis here

    Well master Holyfeild was pretty much on the slide as well with health problems and as far as Douglas goes well Tyson was not even in prison yet. Lewis was a great fighter has a better resume and had a longer title run and avenge his loses not to mention went out on a big win at the age of 38 as well.

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    Default Re: Interested to hear any criticisms of Lennox Lewis here

    Lewis never hit the heights Tyson did, Mike was a global phenomena who transcended the sport because he was that good. Lewis or Holyfield never achieved that level of quality and at Tyson’s best he beats both.

    We can speculate about Holyfield’s heart problems and miraculous cure.
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    Default Re: Interested to hear any criticisms of Lennox Lewis here

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Lewis never hit the heights Tyson did, Mike was a global phenomena who transcended the sport because he was that good. Lewis or Holyfield never achieved that level of quality and at Tyson’s best he beats both.

    We can speculate about Holyfield’s heart problems and miraculous cure.
    I agree that Lewis had something that kept him from being aT THE TOP OF THE WORLD--and it wasnt because he was British. During the Brewster-Wlad fight, Rpy JOnes, Emmanuel Steward, Larry Merchant ALL were like "WOW, Wlad has even a wimpier chin than Lennox Lewis!" I mean there HAS to be something to it. I always thought his chin was suspect amd that was BEFORE the 2 stone cold KOs. Dont gimme this crapola about how he took Vitalis punches so well blah blah---Vitali is a fucking arm puncher especially in that fight against Lewis, all arm punches. Still they rocked Lewis on several occasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    The myth about Lennox's chin is just that, a myth. The punches that stopped him would have stopped anyone today or yesterday. And another thing, there is no freakin way that Lewis would have been able to take those bombs from Vitali if he had a soft chin.
    True it wasnt a 'weak chin' or glass jaw situation with him.


    Like they say; the ones you see coming and expect can be sustained.

    But to be sparked cold off one hit says something a bit different than being clubbed into submission and finally tk'd or ko'd.

    Lewis was usually a very guarded and measuring kind of fighter I think that served him perfectly.
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    Default Re: Interested to hear any criticisms of Lennox Lewis here

    Lewis had the resume and the best division to be since the 70's it was a strong division. I mean Tyson was a great fighter but besides Holmes his resume is not that great its good but not the top. I mean Lewis came out shape and took opponents lightly but he did go out and avenge them which was what a great does do. Tyson never avenged the lose that should never happened he never actually avenge a loss at all. To me Lewis is up there had a long reign and also avenged all his loses with a better resume as well.

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    Default Re: Interested to hear any criticisms of Lennox Lewis here

    Tyson tried to get a rematch against Douglas but he lost to Holyfield and retired.
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