Golovkin doesnt deserve the superfights

[Kirkland Laing]

Thank you to me the GGG hype seems an awful lot like the beginning of the Pactard movement which was a despicable time for true fans. If someone is trying to convince you that Ishida would beat Quillin's resume and is a better win than N'Dam than boxing is in trouble.

What thread is that?

The is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.

And we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.

There was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.

It doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.

At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.

Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?

You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.

[Spicoli]

Thank you to me the GGG hype seems an awful lot like the beginning of the Pactard movement which was a despicable time for true fans. If someone is trying to convince you that Ishida would beat Quillin's resume and is a better win than N'Dam than boxing is in trouble.

What thread is that?

The is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.

And we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.

There was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.

It doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.

At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.

Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?

You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.

According the Lampley and Kellerman he is the adopted son ( the one who can fight) of Chavez senior

[Onetime]

Thank you to me the GGG hype seems an awful lot like the beginning of the Pactard movement which was a despicable time for true fans. If someone is trying to convince you that Ishida would beat Quillin's resume and is a better win than N'Dam than boxing is in trouble.

What thread is that?

The is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.

And we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.

There was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.

It doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.

At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.

Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?

You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.

I think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.

[Silkeyjoe]

You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.

I think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.[/QUOTE]

My god you are clueless about boxing nowadays. Apart from Trout Canelo has beaten noone and that fight was close. an old Baldomir and an average Cotto? there is noone. Apart from DPDL there are no big wins on Broners resume and alot of people have him losing that.

Give GGG some respect, at least he has never even looked like losing.

PS this thread started is a joke. Who wouldnt want to see GGG fight the best out there? And if you think Alvarez would get in a ring with GGG you are sadly mistaken.

[Boxer4life]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPgaSKCr8U

this is the guy were asking to fight ward and mayweather? to be clear right? if he can get through chavez, or martinez then we can talk, until then......its a pointless debate

[Silkeyjoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPgaSKCr8U

this is the guy were asking to fight ward and mayweather? to be clear right? if he can get through chavez, or martinez then we can talk, until then......its a pointless debate

If he fights Martinez next year and KOs him in the 1st or second round what will u say. I know the majority, including me, will say Martinez was shot and could see that from his previous fight. Martinez is a lose lose fight for GGG for me.

[Boxer4life]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPgaSKCr8U

this is the guy were asking to fight ward and mayweather? to be clear right? if he can get through chavez, or martinez then we can talk, until then......its a pointless debate

If he fights Martinez next year and KOs him in the 1st or second round what will u say. I know the majority, including me, will say Martinez was shot and could see that from his previous fight. Martinez is a lose lose fight for GGG for me.

I would give him his just due, its hard to fight injured, i don't think martinez got old overnight, i think he was dealing with injuries and thats why it was a lot closer than it was. And honestly i favor golovkin over Martinez, but i don't think it will be what people think it will be. All im saying is lets see it before we jump to conclusions. And id like him to fight Chavez more so honestly, because Chavez is a real middleweight, with middleweight power and a good chin.

[ray corso]

I'm not going to try to explain why GGG is a real fighter because no one here knows anything about techniques or methods so its a waste of time!!!
Try to get a grip on the the "expression" he's a good boy!

A "good boy" is a fighter who comes to fight and gives a solid effort! Its an old "inside boxing " expression and GGG knows some history within the sport and uses boxing expressions!
Thats the real meaning its NOT lil boy or a dirogitary comment its a respectfull one!!!

GGG's management has sent out contracts to all the middleweight contenders, no one seems to be willing to negotiate. I wonder why? Ray.

[Fenster]

I'm not going to try to explain why GGG is a real fighter because no one here knows anything about techniques or methods so its a waste of time!!!
Try to get a grip on the the "expression" he's a good boy!

A "good boy" is a fighter who comes to fight and gives a solid effort! Its an old "inside boxing " expression and GGG knows some history within the sport and uses boxing expressions!
Thats the real meaning its NOT lil boy or a dirogitary comment its a respectfull one!!!

GGG's management has sent out contracts to all the middleweight contenders, no one seems to be willing to negotiate. I wonder why? Ray.

Jesus, we have the reincarnation of TrainerMonkey.

[Spicoli]

I'm not going to try to explain why GGG is a real fighter because no one here knows anything about techniques or methods so its a waste of time!!!
Try to get a grip on the the "expression" he's a good boy!

A "good boy" is a fighter who comes to fight and gives a solid effort! Its an old "inside boxing " expression and GGG knows some history within the sport and uses boxing expressions!
Thats the real meaning its NOT lil boy or a dirogitary comment its a respectfull one!!!

GGG's management has sent out contracts to all the middleweight contenders, no one seems to be willing to negotiate. I wonder why? Ray.

Jesus, we have the reincarnation of TrainerMonkey.

Blaspheme I don't know if all top trainers could appreciate how a double cheeseburger qualifies as post gym health food because it had lettuce and tomatoes on it like TM could!

[Onetime]

I'm not going to try to explain why GGG is a real fighter because no one here knows anything about techniques or methods so its a waste of time!!!
Try to get a grip on the the "expression" he's a good boy!

A "good boy" is a fighter who comes to fight and gives a solid effort! Its an old "inside boxing " expression and GGG knows some history within the sport and uses boxing expressions!
Thats the real meaning its NOT lil boy or a dirogitary comment its a respectfull one!!!

GGG's management has sent out contracts to all the middleweight contenders, no one seems to be willing to negotiate. I wonder why? Ray.

God you are a Moron clearly GGG has talent, we are talking about him being handed things, Martinez was stripped of 3 legit world titles in 3 months, Martinez doesn't owe GGG anything if he can't bring money.

[Beanz]

I'm not going to try to explain why GGG is a real fighter because no one here knows anything about techniques or methods so its a waste of time!!!
Try to get a grip on the the "expression" he's a good boy!

A "good boy" is a fighter who comes to fight and gives a solid effort! Its an old "inside boxing " expression and GGG knows some history within the sport and uses boxing expressions!
Thats the real meaning its NOT lil boy or a dirogitary comment its a respectfull one!!!

GGG's management has sent out contracts to all the middleweight contenders, no one seems to be willing to negotiate. I wonder why? Ray.

The training section, the posts of active and past fighters, coaches, scouts and boxing press would beg to differ. There are, have been and will continue to be some very knowledgeable people contributing to the site. Your insights are of course welcomed but don't presumed that NOBODY here knows anything about techniques and methods. You are correct in your assessment of Golovkin being respectful, like yourself, and it is a refreshing change for someone to be able to make a point both inside and outside of the ring without resorting to hyperbole.

[ray corso]

Having a serious discussion with people who have fictitious names and use pics of actors and athletes in their avitar is abit strange! Obviously the differences between my persona and people with fake signatures is abit wide!!

Fenster I won't trust you, don't know you and you'd rather compare members here then actually talk about boxing methods & techniques which leads me to believe you don't know much, other than what you've read!

greenbeanz; as you know I call it as I see it! I can be wrong and have been wrong judging folks on the net but to doubt my knowledge on the sport tells me some don't know squat! I do know the sport and how to teach it because I've done for many years! Anyone reading my posts should understand my opinions if they know the sport too!!! ......so thats done time to move on! Ray.

[Dark Lord Al]

Having a serious discussion with people who have fictitious names and use pics of actors and athletes in their avitar is abit strange! Obviously the differences between my persona and people with fake signatures is abit wide!!

Fenster I won't trust you, don't know you and you'd rather compare members here then actually talk about boxing methods & techniques which leads me to believe you don't know much, other than what you've read!

greenbeanz; as you know I call it as I see it! I can be wrong and have been wrong judging folks on the net but to doubt my knowledge on the sport tells me some don't know squat! I do know the sport and how to teach it because I've done for many years! Anyone reading my posts should understand my opinions if they know the sport too!!! ......so thats done time to move on! Ray.

I really hope we can all be better posters in here , thank you for your advice I'm sure fester will try harder also.

[cambay411]

Having a serious discussion with people who have fictitious names and use pics of actors and athletes in their avitar is abit strange! Obviously the differences between my persona and people with fake signatures is abit wide!!

Fenster I won't trust you, don't know you and you'd rather compare members here then actually talk about boxing methods & techniques which leads me to believe you don't know much, other than what you've read!

greenbeanz; as you know I call it as I see it! I can be wrong and have been wrong judging folks on the net but to doubt my knowledge on the sport tells me some don't know squat! I do know the sport and how to teach it because I've done for many years! Anyone reading my posts should understand my opinions if they know the sport too!!! ......so thats done time to move on! Ray.

Ray, you likely do have more boxing knowledge than a lot of people on here. I would listen and love to hear any of your knowledge. And I respect you for this.

I cant however respect your negative attitude and disrespect towards others just because you know more than them. We are not all bad apples.

I know you will probably just get upset if you read this but I hope you can learn to ignore those who are disrespectful and argue points even when they know they are wrong and just focus on those of us who want to continue to learn and can actually benefit from things you know.