Golovkin doesnt deserve the superfights

[Onetime]

The greatest thing about himt he is not American. He doesn't need any hype. Hasn't trashed talked or slagged anyone off. Has not avoided anyone, acted like a true gent post fight thanking his opponents. He has earned the right as a middleweight to challenge Martinez and to suggest otherwise just comes across as sour grapes.

Yeah calling Rosado a good boy was really respectful, he hasn't earned Martinez any more than Quillin has it's just a huge bias.

[Spicoli]

Deserved or not, he's going to get them and it'll be fun to watch. He's not some crude slugger at all but thus far his path or rather push has been to emphasis his strengths against very much measuring sticks rather than contenders. He looks to have the goods but you won't know that until he goes into a fight were we genuinely ponder a win rather than what round he'll knock a guy out. That's true for far to many today. The Tyson talk is just goofy and desperate chew toys for -some- fans to slobber on. I never get the push to use Ama. credentials to enforce professional merit. When we are still pushing them it may very well tell you all you need to know about how far a guy actually has yet to...hopes to go and where's he's at. I think anyway.

[Onetime]

I must repeat myself for those who ARE THICK, 345-5 as a Amateur that is a hell of a record,
plenty of KO's in the Amateurs look on You-Tube.
He has little to prove as he is undefeated as a pro, give some credit outstanding Amateur and Pro
Champion, but for some its not enough like being in paradise just not perfect.!

Rigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.

[Kirkland Laing]

Thank you to me the GGG hype seems an awful lot like the beginning of the Pactard movement which was a despicable time for true fans. If someone is trying to convince you that Ishida would beat Quillin's resume and is a better win than N'Dam than boxing is in trouble.

What thread is that?

The is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.

And we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.

There was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.

It doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.

At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.

Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?

You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.

[Spicoli]

I must repeat myself for those who ARE THICK, 345-5 as a Amateur that is a hell of a record,
plenty of KO's in the Amateurs look on You-Tube.
He has little to prove as he is undefeated as a pro, give some credit outstanding Amateur and Pro
Champion, but for some its not enough like being in paradise just not perfect.!

Rigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.

But in fairness it was mostly all you ever heard about on his way up by all the commentators.

[Spicoli]

Thank you to me the GGG hype seems an awful lot like the beginning of the Pactard movement which was a despicable time for true fans. If someone is trying to convince you that Ishida would beat Quillin's resume and is a better win than N'Dam than boxing is in trouble.

What thread is that?

The is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.

And we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.

There was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.

It doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.

At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.

Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?

You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.

According the Lampley and Kellerman he is the adopted son ( the one who can fight) of Chavez senior

[Onetime]

Thank you to me the GGG hype seems an awful lot like the beginning of the Pactard movement which was a despicable time for true fans. If someone is trying to convince you that Ishida would beat Quillin's resume and is a better win than N'Dam than boxing is in trouble.

What thread is that?

The is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.

And we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.

There was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.

It doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.

At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.

Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?

You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.

I think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.

[Dia bando]

I must repeat myself for those who ARE THICK, 345-5 as a Amateur that is a hell of a record,
plenty of KO's in the Amateurs look on You-Tube.
He has little to prove as he is undefeated as a pro, give some credit outstanding Amateur and Pro
Champion, but for some its not enough like being in paradise just not perfect.!

Rigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.

But in fairness it was mostly all you ever heard about on his way up by all the commentators.

I no what you mean, but Golovkin can fight and so can Rigo both outstanding Amateur Champions,
I've never bother with what commentators have to say, having watched both fighters in the Amateur
and pro ranks. I come to my own conclusions, on the fighters I watch having watched so MUCH boxing
through the years, sometimes its hard to be impressed but Golovkin does.!

[imp]

Let GGG step up to fight froch or kessler then we can say how good he is.

If not, martinez, macklin or chavez is the next step not 154 and picking on the little guys like canelo has done.

[Rantcatrat]

Thank you to me the GGG hype seems an awful lot like the beginning of the Pactard movement which was a despicable time for true fans. If someone is trying to convince you that Ishida would beat Quillin's resume and is a better win than N'Dam than boxing is in trouble.

What thread is that?

The is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.

And we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.

There was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.

It doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.

At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.

Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?

Yeah Kellerman said Crawford is the best Lightweight in the world, the idea of that is laughable, Bob says Manny is the best he ever saw and he has Ali, promoters and networks hold no value in boxing talk, fans are suppose to know better.

Canelo hasn't done anything to deserve Floyd but he is a draw or so we assume, GGG got 350,000 vs Macklin and is not a draw.

Broner got paid 1.5MM to fight Paulie Malignaggi! His team was hailing him as the next Floyd Mayweather, which is completely laughable after he barely got by Paulie. I mean come on. When we're talk about overrated, there is only one picture in the dictionary, and that is Adrian Broner.

[Rantcatrat]

Let GGG step up to fight froch or kessler then we can say how good he is.

If not, martinez, macklin or chavez is the next step not 154 and picking on the little guys like canelo has done.

Wouldn't you say that Froch and Kessler are picking on GGG then if he loses? GGG should clean out the division as best he can.

[Silkeyjoe]

Lol I was just expressing my opinion, I just would like to see him beat some opponents that carry weight, maybe Martinez fight is not a stretch, it seem perfectly feasible as Martinez is overhyped as well, cuz his resume kinda sucks, not their fault I know, the division, but before we offer upFloyd or ward, lets see something impressive, all im saying is , hes a great fighter, hes a nice guy im sure, but I need to see him against some solid guys before we crown him.

Wiliams, Pavlik, Chavez. Resume sucks, get a fucking grip.

[p4pking]

I really don't know who is hyping him so much or being unrealistic about his prospects, he simply looks like a terrific fighter, and he's not fighting in a deep division. It's quite simple. Who is actually saying he shouldn't fight Quillin or Murray, Barker etc, of course those would be good to see. There is just every chance those guys wont want to fight him or the fights wont happen for whatever reason. The most ridiculous posts by far regarding GGG have been coming from this Onetime fellow who seems to have a pretty clear agenda.

[Silkeyjoe]

You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.

I think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.[/QUOTE]

My god you are clueless about boxing nowadays. Apart from Trout Canelo has beaten noone and that fight was close. an old Baldomir and an average Cotto? there is noone. Apart from DPDL there are no big wins on Broners resume and alot of people have him losing that.

Give GGG some respect, at least he has never even looked like losing.

PS this thread started is a joke. Who wouldnt want to see GGG fight the best out there? And if you think Alvarez would get in a ring with GGG you are sadly mistaken.

[Boxer4life]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPgaSKCr8U

this is the guy were asking to fight ward and mayweather? to be clear right? if he can get through chavez, or martinez then we can talk, until then......its a pointless debate