Message to all Americans: your time is up

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[Beanz]

What a condescending annoying Prick Celente is with his whiny, self obsessed rants and lap dog slurping at the feet of master Alex. Having said that he makes some prescient points. America though no doubt starting with SOME good intentions was never the bastion of Democracy that many inside and out claim it to be. It started as, and on paper, still is a Republic. It has evolved though, and became an oligarchy which morphed into a plutocracy and ended up as corporatocracy. Those with money have the power and that is written into the lauded system that the elite founding fathers created when rule of law replaced democracy. America was never a democracy and still isn't.

Celente can miss an old fabled America that never existed because he obviously feels disenfranchised by a changing country that is not the same as the imaginary one he remembers. It's called getting old and nostalgic. He can't on the one hand moan about supporting the corrupt systems and then suggest that America be restored in his image as though his "new way" which apparently is as old as the Bible will magically remove the power from the financial elite of which he is part. He is an unrelenting doom monger and the American equivalent of Russell Grant.

For most outsiders America has never seemed to be about Democracy and freedom. It wasn't during Celente's youth and it isn't now. It is about Business. The opportunities it affords are financial. Gerald and Alex are products of it and they are in it for the money. The conspiracy business is a big money spinner and they are reeling people in, like the money shills they are.

They harvest their stories from the mainstream media they pretend to despise and feed leech like off people's fear and prejudices, regurgitating 3rd hand news as though they are prophets. They present a version of independent thinking that is as shrink wrapped and mass produced as the corporate industries they pretend to rail against.

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I can agree with you 50%

but fuck you about Fragae and my messgae

[Gandalf]

There has never been any pretence at serious democracy, but America once provided decent standards of living for its populace and didn't try to police the world. I guess that is the kind of America Celente is nostalgic about. At one time America seemed to be moving towards some kind of progress both economically and in terms of equal rights. Housing was affordable, raising a child was affordable, education was affordable, healthcare was affordable, retiring was affordable and so on and so on. Nowadays it has all been stripped away and whereas once America was happy just stripping the independance of sovereign countries for resources, it then started to chip away at its own populace too when Wall Street simply had to have more. The middle class which expanded throughout much of the 20th century has been steadly gouged away and it is shrinking alarmingly. There is a great lecture on the decline of the America middle class by Elizabeth Warren which is available on You Tube.

I think GB is harsh on Celente who is doing nothing more than presenting the truth albeit in a bombastic manner. If there is a fault in what he is saying then it should be picked upon, but on the whole Celente is fairly consistent and I have no issues with him making a living by it as a whole lot more in the mainstream media are making a lot more money by basically misinforming the American people and creating people like Lyle. A media that gives airtime to Dick Cheney to ruminate on 'harm to national security', which constantly updates you on stock markets despite most of us living ordinary lives without any stocks and shares, which ignores 3rd party candidates et al et al is a whole lot worse than the likes of Celente saying that life was better before and things are going down the shitter. He is telling the truth and it is observable to any half awake pug.

All media is self serving to some degree or another and there is an obvious reason for that. The British Royal family is a case in point. You are told that a Royal Birth is significant and should pay attention, you are told this must be true as the media is telling you it is. To any of those half awake pugs, they can see through the manipulation and deception. Celente would simply tell it as it is and use a witty line and an expletive to say it. The mainstream media is complicit in a whole lot more than Celente is. The mainstream media has sold wars based upon lies to the public just because the politicians told them to do so.

It's easy to criticise the likes of Celente when they try to tell the truth about the systems that indoctrinate from the off. The indoctrinated are the vast bulk of people and people who shake the shackles off and tell it straight should be commended. Alex Jones annoys me somewhat, but I like Celente a lot more. He seems more intelligent and there aren't really any holes in what he is saying factually.

[brocktonblockbust]

There has never been any pretence at serious democracy, but America once provided decent standards of living for its populace and didn't try to police the world. I guess that is the kind of America Celente is nostalgic about. At one time America seemed to be moving towards some kind of progress both economically and in terms of equal rights. Housing was affordable, raising a child was affordable, education was affordable, healthcare was affordable, retiring was affordable and so on and so on. Nowadays it has all been stripped away and whereas once America was happy just stripping the independance of sovereign countries for resources, it then started to chip away at its own populace too when Wall Street simply had to have more. The middle class which expanded throughout much of the 20th century has been steadly gouged away and it is shrinking alarmingly. There is a great lecture on the decline of the America middle class by Elizabeth Warren which is available on You Tube.

I think GB is harsh on Celente who is doing nothing more than presenting the truth albeit in a bombastic manner. If there is a fault in what he is saying then it should be picked upon, but on the whole Celente is fairly consistent and I have no issues with him making a living by it as a whole lot more in the mainstream media are making a lot more money by basically misinforming the American people and creating people like Lyle. A media that gives airtime to Dick Cheney to ruminate on 'harm to national security', which constantly updates you on stock markets despite most of us living ordinary lives without any stocks and shares, which ignores 3rd party candidates et al et al is a whole lot worse than the likes of Celente saying that life was better before and things are going down the shitter. He is telling the truth and it is observable to any half awake pug.

All media is self serving to some degree or another and there is an obvious reason for that. The British Royal family is a case in point. You are told that a Royal Birth is significant and should pay attention, you are told this must be true as the media is telling you it is. To any of those half awake pugs, they can see through the manipulation and deception. Celente would simply tell it as it is and use a witty line and an expletive to say it. The mainstream media is complicit in a whole lot more than Celente is. The mainstream media has sold wars based upon lies to the public just because the politicians told them to do so.

It's easy to criticise the likes of Celente when they try to tell the truth about the systems that indoctrinate from the off. The indoctrinated are the vast bulk of people and people who shake the shackles off and tell it straight should be commended. Alex Jones annoys me somewhat, but I like Celente a lot more. He seems more intelligent and there aren't really any holes in what he is saying factually.

Agree 100%

[VictorCharlie]

I'm a middle class American that is married with three children. We have affordable housing so much that not only did a buy a nice home in a nice neighborhood but I rent it for a profit and rent a 2500 square foot home that I live in. We buy almost no processed food but rather almost 100% organic produce and beef/pork/chicken/fish etc. Our grocery bill is completely affordable. My children go to a good school and all three have accounts we contribute to for their college education. While neither of my cars were bought new or are top of the line I own both. We are getting ready to take the rugrats on our third vacation this year. My wife works but somehow we find the time to eat dinner as a family and regularly do weekend activities. The American middle class is alive and well but no one is going to hand it to you. We made lots of sacrifices as a young couple, work very hard and still have to watch how we spend. You can have a good life here but it takes hard work, deferred gratification and not taking the all to easy victim attitude.