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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I've never noticed this before.

    I assume the goal is to make a stronger wrist/more compact fist resulting in harder punches?
    Exactly.

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I've never noticed this before.

    I assume the goal is to make a stronger wrist/more compact fist resulting in harder punches?
    Exactly.
    Easier to split the guard too I assume

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Talk about loading a glove from the outside in. Looks like a neck brace for the forearm, turns a slappy clipping shot into a club. Scuff up the tape, fold it over...viola I'm now punching you with a plastic cheese grater. I wouldn't really put it on the ref though, they have to deal with what's introduced to the ring or from corner between rounds. Should be stopped before the bell rings. We can't even count on a ref to score proper knock downs lately.

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Talk about loading a glove from the outside in. Looks like a neck brace for the forearm, turns a slappy clipping shot into a club. Scuff up the tape, fold it over...viola I'm now punching you with a plastic cheese grater. I wouldn't really put it on the ref though, they have to deal with what's introduced to the ring or from corner between rounds. Should be stopped before the bell rings. We can't even count on a ref to score proper knock downs lately.
    The whole point about the tape around the cuff of the glove was to eliminate the 'cheese-rater' effect. Cover up the laces. In the old days- I remember seeing this into the early 1970s- guys would use the laces on the gloves like a razor. These days you don't see the cuts and scuff marks like you used to so I don't think that the tape is much of a weapon in that fashion- most cuts, with the bigger gloves and all, come from elbows or heads.

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Talk about loading a glove from the outside in. Looks like a neck brace for the forearm, turns a slappy clipping shot into a club. Scuff up the tape, fold it over...viola I'm now punching you with a plastic cheese grater. I wouldn't really put it on the ref though, they have to deal with what's introduced to the ring or from corner between rounds. Should be stopped before the bell rings. We can't even count on a ref to score proper knock downs lately.
    The whole point about the tape around the cuff of the glove was to eliminate the 'cheese-rater' effect. Cover up the laces. In the old days- I remember seeing this into the early 1970s- guys would use the laces on the gloves like a razor. These days you don't see the cuts and scuff marks like you used to so I don't think that the tape is much of a weapon in that fashion- most cuts, with the bigger gloves and all, come from elbows or heads.
    Oh yeh without a doubt, guys could perfect a glancing lace as much as a pin point uppercut. Still though if there is the intent to bend for an advantage in the first place tape riding off the wrist may do it also. Kills me how far the sport has come but how often we still see stoppages for rewraps, flapping tape etc. I remember always hearing a few guys calling for a rule across the board to use plain ol duct tape or like more adhesive material but seems nothing came of it. Good call on the elbow...more and more I notice guys almost using a chicken wing as a short floating jab, it's hardly ever called!

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Talk about loading a glove from the outside in. Looks like a neck brace for the forearm, turns a slappy clipping shot into a club. Scuff up the tape, fold it over...viola I'm now punching you with a plastic cheese grater. I wouldn't really put it on the ref though, they have to deal with what's introduced to the ring or from corner between rounds. Should be stopped before the bell rings. We can't even count on a ref to score proper knock downs lately.
    The whole point about the tape around the cuff of the glove was to eliminate the 'cheese-rater' effect. Cover up the laces. In the old days- I remember seeing this into the early 1970s- guys would use the laces on the gloves like a razor. These days you don't see the cuts and scuff marks like you used to so I don't think that the tape is much of a weapon in that fashion- most cuts, with the bigger gloves and all, come from elbows or heads.
    Oh yeh without a doubt, guys could perfect a glancing lace as much as a pin point uppercut. Still though if there is the intent to bend for an advantage in the first place tape riding off the wrist may do it also. Kills me how far the sport has come but how often we still see stoppages for rewraps, flapping tape etc. I remember always hearing a few guys calling for a rule across the board to use plain ol duct tape or like more adhesive material but seems nothing came of it. Good call on the elbow...more and more I notice guys almost using a chicken wing as a short floating jab, it's hardly ever called!
    They would rub the laces across the opponent's eyes in the clinches- get the ref screened to one side and, on the other side, go to work. Kind of like in pro wrestling. You can land the elbow on the follow through of any punch and some guys make it an art form. Michael Spinks and Happy Lora come immediately to mind.

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Talk about loading a glove from the outside in. Looks like a neck brace for the forearm, turns a slappy clipping shot into a club. Scuff up the tape, fold it over...viola I'm now punching you with a plastic cheese grater. I wouldn't really put it on the ref though, they have to deal with what's introduced to the ring or from corner between rounds. Should be stopped before the bell rings. We can't even count on a ref to score proper knock downs lately.
    The whole point about the tape around the cuff of the glove was to eliminate the 'cheese-rater' effect. Cover up the laces. In the old days- I remember seeing this into the early 1970s- guys would use the laces on the gloves like a razor. These days you don't see the cuts and scuff marks like you used to so I don't think that the tape is much of a weapon in that fashion- most cuts, with the bigger gloves and all, come from elbows or heads.
    Oh yeh without a doubt, guys could perfect a glancing lace as much as a pin point uppercut. Still though if there is the intent to bend for an advantage in the first place tape riding off the wrist may do it also. Kills me how far the sport has come but how often we still see stoppages for rewraps, flapping tape etc. I remember always hearing a few guys calling for a rule across the board to use plain ol duct tape or like more adhesive material but seems nothing came of it. Good call on the elbow...more and more I notice guys almost using a chicken wing as a short floating jab, it's hardly ever called!
    They would rub the laces across the opponent's eyes in the clinches- get the ref screened to one side and, on the other side, go to work. Kind of like in pro wrestling. You can land the elbow on the follow through of any punch and some guys make it an art form. Michael Spinks and Happy Lora come immediately to mind.
    Like a power shot with a built in blinding jab the glove. Antonio demarco vs Edwin Valero. I like Demarco but one of those along the ropes looked as targeted as they come, Valero looked like he was attacked with a hatchet!

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Also, this works real well with Reyes gloves. If you notice, they have a longer cuff. Well, all that goes into the weight of the glove. An 18 oz glove doesn't mean 18 oz of padding over the knuckles. With Reyes, a lot of the weight is in the cuff and on the back of the hand, relatively light over the part where punches land; this is why they are known as punchers gloves.
    What you are doing with all that tape, you are skinning it back, pushing the padding back and taping it down, because it moves, and you want your punches to land with as much of that heavily taped and tightly wrapped fist getting through as possible.
    In the old days they wrapped hands with packing tape and fought with 4 oz gloves and it is a miracle (and a testament to defensive skill) that anybody survived.

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    The amount of tape on those gloves is ridiculous!!! Normally I tried to peal back some of the material by crossing my laces on the backside of the glove up high and feeding the padding back toward the wrists and then secure it by tightening down the laces! Then you use tape to cover the laces!

    Whats more incredible to me is how often fighters are hitting pads with "fight gloves on"!!!
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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Fuck I never even know about this. How fucking useless are the athletic commisions if guys are getting away with this shit?

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Damn just watching a card from Mexico. Javier Quiebra vs Gerardo González. The tape line is right at the bottom of the thumb. Never seen tape that high before.

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Damn just watching a card from Mexico. Javier Quiebra vs Gerardo González. The tape line is right at the bottom of the thumb. Never seen tape that high before.
    Got a picture? Still can't get it into my head what is the big deal.
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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Why do Mexican fighters cheat so damn much? Why is it that Mexican boxing so much more dirtier than any other boxing town? Geezus... I would never fight in Mexico if I were a fighter, and would have the strictest rules for Mexican fighters fighting me on my home turf or away from Mexico.
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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    to clarify, it would make sense to me that by binding the glove higher it 'may' cause it to compact - some of you are you are saying the opposite is true, that you are able to 'massage' the padding down the glove away from the knuckle.

    A rep from the opposing fighers corner if not the trainer, commission are present when wrapping and they don't complain. The ref doesn't complain, they will say 'as discussed in the dressing room these shorts are a little high', etc. The rest of the corner and fighter could also complain before the first bell.....so why don't they?

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    Default Re: Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Why do Mexican fighters cheat so damn much? Why is it that Mexican boxing so much more dirtier than any other boxing town? Geezus... I would never fight in Mexico if I were a fighter, and would have the strictest rules for Mexican fighters fighting me on my home turf or away from Mexico.

    Its not just Mexico but it seems almost normal there. They do it all over Asia and lets not forget that many have gotten away with it in the States also. Ones fist becomes the end of a cast. I bet the ko% in a study would be somewhat alarming.

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