De La Hoya: Peter Quillin destroys any middleweight..

[Rantcatrat]

Okay who signed the exclusive contract to the network that doesn't allow Haymon fighters? You can say he signed before but we all knew it was headed that way. If you are Showtime why do you let a guy who you pay 400,000 to be on undercards fight on your rival? Why do I have the feeling these people are the same ones who think Floyd was scared of Manny? Typical double standard how come people are saying Quillin should go to HBO? Why aren't people calling for GGG to go to Showtime? We all know why.

Also I love how fast people are to dump on N'Dam put him on GGG's resume, where would he be? He would be two, GGG fans have mental handicap where they think Ishida is an ATG.

This makes no sense. With all due respect, I think you need to understand there is very little difference in GB and TR. If you think DLH is an honest, upstanding citizen, I just don't know what to tell you. I'll tell you what, if there is a promoter out there that appears on the surface to be legitimate and transparent, it would be Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, not they they are perfect.

Honestly I'm not fooled by either I've seen the way GB treats Lara and maybe sets up there guys for gift decisions. Also I'm not sure why you bring up Top Rank GGG is not Top Rank so it's not an issue. But the fact that GGG has a contract with HBO and Golden Boy has called up HBO and offered them Paulie-Broner and Hopkins-Stevenson and they said no means Quillin can't duck GGG, the only way Quillin can be accused of ducking is if HBO sends Golden Boy a contract , just because GGG wishes to face someone doesn't make it a duck, if this is a duck than Mikey and Donaire are ducking Mares and Manny is ducking the Golden Boy welters, it gets on my nerves that the GGG fans pretend there is no network war that was my point.

Goes both ways though right, my friend. Mares is ducking Donaire and the GB welters are ducking Manny?

Quillin isn't ducking GGG now although I heard rumors a while ago that Quillin opted to not face GGG before the HBO-Showtime war began.

Frankly, GGG versus Quillin would be a heck of a fight. I wish it would happen. I don't think GGG would be favored all that much.

[Silkeyjoe]

Okay who signed the exclusive contract to the network that doesn't allow Haymon fighters? You can say he signed before but we all knew it was headed that way. If you are Showtime why do you let a guy who you pay 400,000 to be on undercards fight on your rival? Why do I have the feeling these people are the same ones who think Floyd was scared of Manny? Typical double standard how come people are saying Quillin should go to HBO? Why aren't people calling for GGG to go to Showtime? We all know why.

Also I love how fast people are to dump on N'Dam put him on GGG's resume, where would he be? He would be two, GGG fans have mental handicap where they think Ishida is an ATG.

This makes no sense. With all due respect, I think you need to understand there is very little difference in GB and TR. If you think DLH is an honest, upstanding citizen, I just don't know what to tell you. I'll tell you what, if there is a promoter out there that appears on the surface to be legitimate and transparent, it would be Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, not they they are perfect.

Honestly I'm not fooled by either I've seen the way GB treats Lara and maybe sets up there guys for gift decisions. Also I'm not sure why you bring up Top Rank GGG is not Top Rank so it's not an issue. But the fact that GGG has a contract with HBO and Golden Boy has called up HBO and offered them Paulie-Broner and Hopkins-Stevenson and they said no means Quillin can't duck GGG, the only way Quillin can be accused of ducking is if HBO sends Golden Boy a contract , just because GGG wishes to face someone doesn't make it a duck, if this is a duck than Mikey and Donaire are ducking Mares and Manny is ducking the Golden Boy welters, it gets on my nerves that the GGG fans pretend there is no network war that was my point.

Goes both ways though right, my friend. Mares is ducking Donaire and the GB welters are ducking Manny?

Quillin isn't ducking GGG now although I heard rumors a while ago that Quillin opted to not face GGG before the HBO-Showtime war began.

Frankly, GGG versus Quillin would be a heck of a fight. I wish it would happen. I don't think GGG would be favored all that much.

Noone is saying Quillin is ducking GGG. It's just a stupid comment from ODLH because he knows the fight ain't gonna happen. I personally don't see how Quillin could beat Golovkin unless he is an even bigger puncher then he thinks he is. He lost pretty much every round he didn't floor Ndam and Ndam is a very average fighter.

You can say whatever you want about GGg resume and say he hasn't fought anyone as good as Ndam. If GGg fights Ndam the fight ends in round 1.

I'd like to see Quillin v Murray. I wasn't impressed by Quillin in the fight against the Scottish chap Lee beat(can't think of his name) so a Murray test would give a good scale of how good he really is

[Onetime]

Okay who signed the exclusive contract to the network that doesn't allow Haymon fighters? You can say he signed before but we all knew it was headed that way. If you are Showtime why do you let a guy who you pay 400,000 to be on undercards fight on your rival? Why do I have the feeling these people are the same ones who think Floyd was scared of Manny? Typical double standard how come people are saying Quillin should go to HBO? Why aren't people calling for GGG to go to Showtime? We all know why.

Also I love how fast people are to dump on N'Dam put him on GGG's resume, where would he be? He would be two, GGG fans have mental handicap where they think Ishida is an ATG.

This makes no sense. With all due respect, I think you need to understand there is very little difference in GB and TR. If you think DLH is an honest, upstanding citizen, I just don't know what to tell you. I'll tell you what, if there is a promoter out there that appears on the surface to be legitimate and transparent, it would be Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, not they they are perfect.

Honestly I'm not fooled by either I've seen the way GB treats Lara and maybe sets up there guys for gift decisions. Also I'm not sure why you bring up Top Rank GGG is not Top Rank so it's not an issue. But the fact that GGG has a contract with HBO and Golden Boy has called up HBO and offered them Paulie-Broner and Hopkins-Stevenson and they said no means Quillin can't duck GGG, the only way Quillin can be accused of ducking is if HBO sends Golden Boy a contract , just because GGG wishes to face someone doesn't make it a duck, if this is a duck than Mikey and Donaire are ducking Mares and Manny is ducking the Golden Boy welters, it gets on my nerves that the GGG fans pretend there is no network war that was my point.

Goes both ways though right, my friend. Mares is ducking Donaire and the GB welters are ducking Manny?

Quillin isn't ducking GGG now although I heard rumors a while ago that Quillin opted to not face GGG before the HBO-Showtime war began.

Frankly, GGG versus Quillin would be a heck of a fight. I wish it would happen. I don't think GGG would be favored all that much.

Noone is saying Quillin is ducking GGG. It's just a stupid comment from ODLH because he knows the fight ain't gonna happen. I personally don't see how Quillin could beat Golovkin unless he is an even bigger puncher then he thinks he is. He lost pretty much every round he didn't floor Ndam and Ndam is a very average fighter.

You can say whatever you want about GGg resume and say he hasn't fought anyone as good as Ndam. If GGg fights Ndam the fight ends in round 1.

I'd like to see Quillin v Murray. I wasn't impressed by Quillin in the fight against the Scottish chap Lee beat(can't think of his name) so a Murray test would give a good scale of how good he really is

I like how you dump on N'Dam who has been on the ringmiddleweights rankings for years but act like 9 loss Ishida is special, still not sure why you give him so much credit.

[Silkeyjoe]

Okay who signed the exclusive contract to the network that doesn't allow Haymon fighters? You can say he signed before but we all knew it was headed that way. If you are Showtime why do you let a guy who you pay 400,000 to be on undercards fight on your rival? Why do I have the feeling these people are the same ones who think Floyd was scared of Manny? Typical double standard how come people are saying Quillin should go to HBO? Why aren't people calling for GGG to go to Showtime? We all know why.

Also I love how fast people are to dump on N'Dam put him on GGG's resume, where would he be? He would be two, GGG fans have mental handicap where they think Ishida is an ATG.

This makes no sense. With all due respect, I think you need to understand there is very little difference in GB and TR. If you think DLH is an honest, upstanding citizen, I just don't know what to tell you. I'll tell you what, if there is a promoter out there that appears on the surface to be legitimate and transparent, it would be Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, not they they are perfect.

Honestly I'm not fooled by either I've seen the way GB treats Lara and maybe sets up there guys for gift decisions. Also I'm not sure why you bring up Top Rank GGG is not Top Rank so it's not an issue. But the fact that GGG has a contract with HBO and Golden Boy has called up HBO and offered them Paulie-Broner and Hopkins-Stevenson and they said no means Quillin can't duck GGG, the only way Quillin can be accused of ducking is if HBO sends Golden Boy a contract , just because GGG wishes to face someone doesn't make it a duck, if this is a duck than Mikey and Donaire are ducking Mares and Manny is ducking the Golden Boy welters, it gets on my nerves that the GGG fans pretend there is no network war that was my point.

Goes both ways though right, my friend. Mares is ducking Donaire and the GB welters are ducking Manny?

Quillin isn't ducking GGG now although I heard rumors a while ago that Quillin opted to not face GGG before the HBO-Showtime war began.

Frankly, GGG versus Quillin would be a heck of a fight. I wish it would happen. I don't think GGG would be favored all that much.

Noone is saying Quillin is ducking GGG. It's just a stupid comment from ODLH because he knows the fight ain't gonna happen. I personally don't see how Quillin could beat Golovkin unless he is an even bigger puncher then he thinks he is. He lost pretty much every round he didn't floor Ndam and Ndam is a very average fighter.

You can say whatever you want about GGg resume and say he hasn't fought anyone as good as Ndam. If GGg fights Ndam the fight ends in round 1.

I'd like to see Quillin v Murray. I wasn't impressed by Quillin in the fight against the Scottish chap Lee beat(can't think of his name) so a Murray test would give a good scale of how good he really is

I like how you dump on N'Dam who has been on the ringmiddleweights rankings for years but act like 9 loss Ishida is special, still not sure why you give him so much credit.

Ishida isnt special you fuking idiot but he is very hard to stop. That is why his win over him is impressive.

[Onetime]

Okay who signed the exclusive contract to the network that doesn't allow Haymon fighters? You can say he signed before but we all knew it was headed that way. If you are Showtime why do you let a guy who you pay 400,000 to be on undercards fight on your rival? Why do I have the feeling these people are the same ones who think Floyd was scared of Manny? Typical double standard how come people are saying Quillin should go to HBO? Why aren't people calling for GGG to go to Showtime? We all know why.

Also I love how fast people are to dump on N'Dam put him on GGG's resume, where would he be? He would be two, GGG fans have mental handicap where they think Ishida is an ATG.

This makes no sense. With all due respect, I think you need to understand there is very little difference in GB and TR. If you think DLH is an honest, upstanding citizen, I just don't know what to tell you. I'll tell you what, if there is a promoter out there that appears on the surface to be legitimate and transparent, it would be Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, not they they are perfect.

Honestly I'm not fooled by either I've seen the way GB treats Lara and maybe sets up there guys for gift decisions. Also I'm not sure why you bring up Top Rank GGG is not Top Rank so it's not an issue. But the fact that GGG has a contract with HBO and Golden Boy has called up HBO and offered them Paulie-Broner and Hopkins-Stevenson and they said no means Quillin can't duck GGG, the only way Quillin can be accused of ducking is if HBO sends Golden Boy a contract , just because GGG wishes to face someone doesn't make it a duck, if this is a duck than Mikey and Donaire are ducking Mares and Manny is ducking the Golden Boy welters, it gets on my nerves that the GGG fans pretend there is no network war that was my point.

Goes both ways though right, my friend. Mares is ducking Donaire and the GB welters are ducking Manny?

Quillin isn't ducking GGG now although I heard rumors a while ago that Quillin opted to not face GGG before the HBO-Showtime war began.

Frankly, GGG versus Quillin would be a heck of a fight. I wish it would happen. I don't think GGG would be favored all that much.

Noone is saying Quillin is ducking GGG. It's just a stupid comment from ODLH because he knows the fight ain't gonna happen. I personally don't see how Quillin could beat Golovkin unless he is an even bigger puncher then he thinks he is. He lost pretty much every round he didn't floor Ndam and Ndam is a very average fighter.

You can say whatever you want about GGg resume and say he hasn't fought anyone as good as Ndam. If GGg fights Ndam the fight ends in round 1.

I'd like to see Quillin v Murray. I wasn't impressed by Quillin in the fight against the Scottish chap Lee beat(can't think of his name) so a Murray test would give a good scale of how good he really is

I like how you dump on N'Dam who has been on the ringmiddleweights rankings for years but act like 9 loss Ishida is special, still not sure why you give him so much credit.

Ishida isnt special you fuking idiot but he is very hard to stop. That is why his win over him is impressive.

You are the fucking idiot blowing a win over a journeyman

[Silkeyjoe]

You are the fucking idiot blowing a win over a journeyman

Again you fucking idiot its not the win that was impressive it was how he won.

[Onetime]

You are the fucking idiot blowing a win over a journeyman

Again you fucking idiot its not the win that was impressive it was how he won.

Or the fact that his resume is so pathetic that you need to blow Ishida. I'd respect you more if you would just admit you are in love with him.

[Silkeyjoe]

You are the fucking idiot blowing a win over a journeyman

Again you fucking idiot its not the win that was impressive it was how he won.

Or the fact that his resume is so pathetic that you need to blow Ishida. I'd respect you more if you would just admit you are in love with him.

Ive already explained why I like him. There is nothing not to like as a boxing fan. ID respect you a lot more if you tell me what was wrong with his performance against Ishida, or Macklin??

You clearly have no clue on boxing. Everyone can tell on this forum because the only arguments that come out of your mouth is dribble about resumes and fan boys which could be used against any of the fighters you are defending in exactly the same way. Again you are a clueless nobend.

[Onetime]

You are the fucking idiot blowing a win over a journeyman

Again you fucking idiot its not the win that was impressive it was how he won.

Or the fact that his resume is so pathetic that you need to blow Ishida. I'd respect you more if you would just admit you are in love with him.

Ive already explained why I like him. There is nothing not to like as a boxing fan. ID respect you a lot more if you tell me what was wrong with his performance against Ishida, or Macklin??

You clearly have no clue on boxing. Everyone can tell on this forum because the only arguments that come out of your mouth is dribble about resumes and fan boys which could be used against any of the fighters you are defending in exactly the same way. Again you are a clueless nobend.

Ishida was a 154 pound journeymen, Kirkland was an idiot drug user who didn't bother training, he already had his next fight planned, Ishida isn't what GGG fans claim

Macklin is his best win I've never criticized it, others have said he fought scared I've never made that argument.

You can have all the talent in the world but if you don't face no one who cares? I've never been a 0 worshiper, it doesn't mean much either if you don't face anyone.

[Silkeyjoe]

Ishida was a 154 pound journeymen, Kirkland was an idiot drug user who didn't bother training, he already had his next fight planned, Ishida isn't what GGG fans claim

Macklin is his best win I've never criticized it, others have said he fought scared I've never made that argument.

You can have all the talent in the world but if you don't face no one who cares? I've never been a 0 worshiper, it doesn't mean much either if you don't face anyone.

Agrred, but do you not thing the way in which GGG stopped Ishida was impressive? 3rd round KO something Pirog, Williams, Kirkland couldnt do?

Bit in bold - why have you a hard on for Quillin, Chavez, Russell Jr? None have beaten anyone who is that good and also in their fights a lot of times they have looked pretty average - Quillin against the Scot and Ndam, and Chavez against Lee

[Onetime]

Ishida was a 154 pound journeymen, Kirkland was an idiot drug user who didn't bother training, he already had his next fight planned, Ishida isn't what GGG fans claim

Macklin is his best win I've never criticized it, others have said he fought scared I've never made that argument.

You can have all the talent in the world but if you don't face no one who cares? I've never been a 0 worshiper, it doesn't mean much either if you don't face anyone.

Agrred, but do you not thing the way in which GGG stopped Ishida was impressive? 3rd round KO something Pirog, Williams, Kirkland couldnt do?

Bit in bold - why have you a hard on for Quillin, Chavez, Russell Jr? None have beaten anyone who is that good and also in their fights a lot of times they have looked pretty average - Quillin against the Scot and Ndam, and Chavez against Lee

I was impressed but yall have taken the win way to far.

I'm not high on Chavez just not down on him he's struggled but you seem to be claiming no other middleweight is good if Chavez and Quillin aren't good than you can say he cleared out 160, I've seen that tactic used by people who claim Manny cleared out 147.

[Silkeyjoe]

I was impressed but yall have taken the win way to far.

I'm not high on Chavez just not down on him he's struggled but you seem to be claiming no other middleweight is good if Chavez and Quillin aren't good than you can say he cleared out 160, I've seen that tactic used by people who claim Manny cleared out 147.

I think GGG could clear out the MW division now. Its a pretty shit division. I hope he fights Chavez, Quillin and Martinez because I want to see him in with the "big" names. I dont think any of them will cause him trouble at this point

[Rantcatrat]

GGG has had three main events on HBO. Quillin hasn't had one main event on Showtime. DLH needs to step his game up. If there is more hype on GGG, part of the reason is that he's had more exposure, and when he gets exposure he's terrorizing people.

It's all personal opinion, but I rank GGG's win over Macklin higher than I do Quillin's over N'Dam, BUT not that much higher. I rank GGG's win over Rosado higher than I do Quillin's over Guerrero. On resume, they are not too far apart, however. The way they've won fights though has been starkly different.

[Silkeyjoe]

GGG has had three main events on HBO. Quillin hasn't had one main event on Showtime. DLH needs to step his game up. If there is more hype on GGG, part of the reason is that he's had more exposure, and when he gets exposure he's terrorizing people.

It's all personal opinion, but I rank GGG's win over Macklin higher than I do Quillin's over N'Dam, BUT not that much higher. I rank GGG's win over Rosado higher than I do Quillin's over Guerrero. On resume, they are not too far apart, however. The way they've won fights though has been starkly different.

More or less what I was trying to say. Quillin is now 30 and has had 2 more fights then GGG so they should be in a very similar place career wise. But Quillin seems to be becoming very inactive. He fought 4 times in 2011, twice in 2012 and only once so far in 2013 with no news of him fighting again this year. GGG on the other hand has fought 3 times this year already.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Ggg went life and death with a washed up kassim ouma. Lol

Quillin would destroy ouma