Gennady Golovkin is better than Andre Ward in many ways

[Onetime]

I can't tell you how many fighters I've seen on regional TV who looked like beasts because they were fighting over matched guys do you give them credit?

The stuff you say about GGG is so outrageous that it pretty much makes everything else you say invalid, how foolish will you look if he loses what would you do?

Ill just admit I was wrong and move on. You cant be right everytime. Overmatched? Like Quillin v Ndam or Chavez v Lee? Macklin v GGG was a mismatch but man GGG looked good in that fight. Quillin and Chavez didnt. It gets to a point when you ask what isnt over matched for GGG? What would GGG have to do for you to give him credit and say he looks like he could be an all time great?

Point blank you can't count amateurs toward the pros which GGG fans have a habit of doing, I can't consider a fighter an ATG while Ishida is one of his best wins, would you rather have a career where you faced a ton of elite and even some ATG guys or do you want to be undefeated but have to say Ishida is a great win, I think we have very different standards, I'd take Manny's career over GGG even if he goes undefeated but has no ATGs or elite fighters.

You should ask Floyd this. I dont know of anyone who has said GGG is an all time great, I certainly havent. Im just saying it looks like he has the potential to become one. Would I consider him an all time great if he clears up the MW division? Probably not because the div is weak, but if he moved down and fought and beat Canelo or Floyd or moves up and beats Ward or Froch, then yes he will be an all time great.

He is 31 now coming into the peak of his career. For me the next 4 years will show how good he is. I think he will be great and I hope I am right because he comes across as a nice guy.

Floyd without a doubt stopped trying after Oscar and any honest fan will tell he didn't reach the level his talents would have let him.

Honestly if you were trying to make GGG disliked you couldn't have done a better job hype always creates backlash.

[Silkeyjoe]

I can't tell you how many fighters I've seen on regional TV who looked like beasts because they were fighting over matched guys do you give them credit?

The stuff you say about GGG is so outrageous that it pretty much makes everything else you say invalid, how foolish will you look if he loses what would you do?

Ill just admit I was wrong and move on. You cant be right everytime. Overmatched? Like Quillin v Ndam or Chavez v Lee? Macklin v GGG was a mismatch but man GGG looked good in that fight. Quillin and Chavez didnt. It gets to a point when you ask what isnt over matched for GGG? What would GGG have to do for you to give him credit and say he looks like he could be an all time great?

Point blank you can't count amateurs toward the pros which GGG fans have a habit of doing, I can't consider a fighter an ATG while Ishida is one of his best wins, would you rather have a career where you faced a ton of elite and even some ATG guys or do you want to be undefeated but have to say Ishida is a great win, I think we have very different standards, I'd take Manny's career over GGG even if he goes undefeated but has no ATGs or elite fighters.

You should ask Floyd this. I dont know of anyone who has said GGG is an all time great, I certainly havent. Im just saying it looks like he has the potential to become one. Would I consider him an all time great if he clears up the MW division? Probably not because the div is weak, but if he moved down and fought and beat Canelo or Floyd or moves up and beats Ward or Froch, then yes he will be an all time great.

He is 31 now coming into the peak of his career. For me the next 4 years will show how good he is. I think he will be great and I hope I am right because he comes across as a nice guy.

Floyd without a doubt stopped trying after Oscar and any honest fan will tell he didn't reach the level his talents would have let him.

Honestly if you were trying to make GGG disliked you couldn't have done a better job hype always creates backlash.

Well if you were trying to make yourself disliked you couldnt be doing a better job. As far as I can see its only you and a couple of the other gobshites on this forum who dont like him so Im not to concerned.

[Onetime]

I can't tell you how many fighters I've seen on regional TV who looked like beasts because they were fighting over matched guys do you give them credit?

The stuff you say about GGG is so outrageous that it pretty much makes everything else you say invalid, how foolish will you look if he loses what would you do?

Ill just admit I was wrong and move on. You cant be right everytime. Overmatched? Like Quillin v Ndam or Chavez v Lee? Macklin v GGG was a mismatch but man GGG looked good in that fight. Quillin and Chavez didnt. It gets to a point when you ask what isnt over matched for GGG? What would GGG have to do for you to give him credit and say he looks like he could be an all time great?

Point blank you can't count amateurs toward the pros which GGG fans have a habit of doing, I can't consider a fighter an ATG while Ishida is one of his best wins, would you rather have a career where you faced a ton of elite and even some ATG guys or do you want to be undefeated but have to say Ishida is a great win, I think we have very different standards, I'd take Manny's career over GGG even if he goes undefeated but has no ATGs or elite fighters.

You should ask Floyd this. I dont know of anyone who has said GGG is an all time great, I certainly havent. Im just saying it looks like he has the potential to become one. Would I consider him an all time great if he clears up the MW division? Probably not because the div is weak, but if he moved down and fought and beat Canelo or Floyd or moves up and beats Ward or Froch, then yes he will be an all time great.

He is 31 now coming into the peak of his career. For me the next 4 years will show how good he is. I think he will be great and I hope I am right because he comes across as a nice guy.

Floyd without a doubt stopped trying after Oscar and any honest fan will tell he didn't reach the level his talents would have let him.

Honestly if you were trying to make GGG disliked you couldn't have done a better job hype always creates backlash.

Well if you were trying to make yourself disliked you couldnt be doing a better job. As far as I can see its only you and a couple of the other gobshites on this forum who dont like him so Im not to concerned.

Honestly I don't care if I'm disliked and I certainly not going to blow a fighter I don't like to be popular on a forum. The GGG hate will grow to the point were he is disliked like Manny.