Gennady Golovkin is better than Andre Ward in many ways

[Rantcatrat]

Hey why does GGG enjoy picking on 154 pounders? Do your condone that?

GGGs' fought all 160 pound fighters except for Rosado. Ouma and Ishida were already fighting at middleweight. Macklin has been fighting at middleweight for years. GGG is a small middleweight, he can make 154.

It's weird to me how GGG fans will laugh off Mora, N'Dam, Vera and Stevens while being proud of Rosado, Ishida, Ouma.

I don't understand your dislike for GGG. To me, he is a lot of fun to watch.

N'Dam did not want a fight with GGG in the past. Sturm also repeatedly ducked GGG for years.

I admit to thinking pretty highly of Rosado. I thought he whupped J'Leon Love. I also think he's improved his ability over the years and I think he turned down a fight with Bundrage at 154 to step up to 160 to face GGG. That takes balls.

Ishida was the definition of a stay busy fight. GGG has fought four times in the last year. He has fought more than any other middleweight champion. Activity is good, not bad. Like you, I don't rank the win over Ishida any more than just a stay busy win. I think knocking Ishida out was impressive because Ishida is generally durable, however, but I keep it in perspective because it was Ishida.

As a fan, I expect to see GGG face the winner of Geale/Barker or Murray. In my opinion, fighting Mora, Stevens, or Vera would be a step back from those fights.

Speaking of Quillin, I thought facing Guerrero was a step back from his win over N'Dam, which is his best win. You brought up Mora for GGG, but considering Quillin's limited options, Mora wouldn't be a bad choice for him.

His team acts like he Mayweather that's why he doesn't get fights, it's so funny to hear his team say Quillin has to come to HBO because GGG is the money man, he made 100 times less than Floyd and his people talking about money. Than you got his annoying fans insulting Martinez, Quillin and Ward. The fact that GGG who has a Ishida in his best wins has fans who would put down a ATG like Martinez boils my blood. I remember when Manny was pretending he was the 154 for pound champ and Manny said he would fight anyone at 150 and Martinez agreed and Manny ducked, Manny fans were like who? GGG is going to bring bad things with him. I just dislike every thing about this man.

Sounds like you don't like his fans. You haven't said what you don't like about him.

Rabid fans are rabid fans.

Well the first part is from his team who I don't believe negotiate in good faith and love to claim duck for their incompetence.

I just don't think GGG is that good, he has 7 quality wins and 3 are against guys who are viewed as 154 pounders and not even elite 154 pounders and this guy thinks he could beat Ward, Martinez and Mayweather. GGG fans even seem to doubt him Chavez is to big put Chavez in with easily hittable and everyone will act like no one saw it coming.

I guess time will tell. Can he clean out the middleweight division? Can he beat the top guys around his weight class? Let's wait and see. I understand that.

[Silkeyjoe]

Well the first part is from his team who I don't believe negotiate in good faith and love to claim duck for their incompetence.

I just don't think GGG is that good, he has 7 quality wins and 3 are against guys who are viewed as 154 pounders and not even elite 154 pounders and this guy thinks he could beat Ward, Martinez and Mayweather. GGG fans even seem to doubt him Chavez is to big put Chavez in with easily hittable and everyone will act like no one saw it coming.

Who said they thought GGG would beat Mayweather or Ward? Do you not think GGG could beat Martinez? If not you are a fucking moron and clearly dont watch boxing. He clearly looks to be in decline, struggled with Murray, got rocked by Chavez and if you are comparing their displays against Macklin theres no debate whos performance was better. If they were to fight next year Id say its a 50/50 match.

[Onetime]

Well the first part is from his team who I don't believe negotiate in good faith and love to claim duck for their incompetence.

I just don't think GGG is that good, he has 7 quality wins and 3 are against guys who are viewed as 154 pounders and not even elite 154 pounders and this guy thinks he could beat Ward, Martinez and Mayweather. GGG fans even seem to doubt him Chavez is to big put Chavez in with easily hittable and everyone will act like no one saw it coming.

Who said they thought GGG would beat Mayweather or Ward? Do you not think GGG could beat Martinez? If not you are a fucking moron and clearly dont watch boxing. He clearly looks to be in decline, struggled with Murray, got rocked by Chavez and if you are comparing their displays against Macklin theres no debate whos performance was better. If they were to fight next year Id say its a 50/50 match.

Okay so does GGG beat Ward and Floyd? GGG hasn't done shit I don't get why you don't get that he was 4 quality wins against 160 pounders I'm saying Martinez owes GGG nothing, GGG fans love to cry about ducks but Martinez earned what he got and I'd hate to get credit through a triangle theory which I know you will pull.

[Silkeyjoe]

Well the first part is from his team who I don't believe negotiate in good faith and love to claim duck for their incompetence.

I just don't think GGG is that good, he has 7 quality wins and 3 are against guys who are viewed as 154 pounders and not even elite 154 pounders and this guy thinks he could beat Ward, Martinez and Mayweather. GGG fans even seem to doubt him Chavez is to big put Chavez in with easily hittable and everyone will act like no one saw it coming.

Who said they thought GGG would beat Mayweather or Ward? Do you not think GGG could beat Martinez? If not you are a fucking moron and clearly dont watch boxing. He clearly looks to be in decline, struggled with Murray, got rocked by Chavez and if you are comparing their displays against Macklin theres no debate whos performance was better. If they were to fight next year Id say its a 50/50 match.

Okay so does GGG beat Ward and Floyd? GGG hasn't done shit I don't get why you don't get that he was 4 quality wins against 160 pounders I'm saying Martinez owes GGG nothing, GGG fans love to cry about ducks but Martinez earned what he got and I'd hate to get credit through a triangle theory which I know you will pull.

Probably not. Ward would be a massive fav and depending how comfortable Floyd is with Canelo, he is a big fav too. I have no disagreement about Martinez. He was a great champion, he still is, and I have defended him on other threads.