Young favored prospect getting schooled by the veteran?

[Hulk]

Randall Bailey flattening Mike Jones was a big recent one that I see nobody has mentioned. I know Randall can bang, but I never saw that outcome.

Jones was already a contender. He wasn't a prospect any more

I thought of that one as I'm a big Bailey fan and watched that one live. BUT, Bailey did not "school" the prospect, he lost every round save maybe 1 or 2 and then landed a couple hail mary shots.

[Spicoli]

There's a big difference between prospect and contender. Not to mention prospect and former champion. Prospect and actual champion? I'm not even gonna bother with that one. Damn near all the ones mentioned don't even apply.

Joe Calzaghe-Jeff Lacy
Bernard Hopkins-Kelly Pavlik/Felix Trinidad
Michael Grant-Lennox Lewis
Ray Mercer-Jesse Ferguson/Larry Holmes
Jesse James Leija-Juan Lazcano
Reggie Johnson-William Guthrie
Carl Froch-Lucian Bute
Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye

Lacy, Bute, Haye and Trinidad where actual champions when they lost. Pavlik, Mercer and Guthrie were former champions. Lazcano (who didn't even lose) and Grant were contenders. None of them were close to being consider a young prospect.

Leija-Bojado. Guerrero-Brewer and Thompson-Haye apply. Those are good examples of prospect vs verteran. The rest are just moronic examples

I dunno meing, Guthrie had a trinket but in reality he was as pure untested 'prospect' as they come. Took courts and judges for a shot at a stripped gimme trinket and then pole axed by written off inactive, totally unranked veteran in Johnson, who was jumping up not one but two weight classes. Poor dude peaked and crashed for good all in 4+ rounds?! I got Rubio clowning Bojado above Leija pulling it off.

Guthrie was 31 years old. How is that a "Young" prospect?

In ring experience he was a pup and hardly building up wear and tear, ring miles is what I think largley counts. You got alot of guys not even hitting notoriety or trinkets until late 20's. Guerrero was a deeper 'contender' than Guthrie, though younger he had logged tougher comp in only a couple fights less at time of loss.

[bzkfn]

Randall Bailey flattening Mike Jones was a big recent one that I see nobody has mentioned. I know Randall can bang, but I never saw that outcome.

Jones was already a contender. He wasn't a prospect any more

I'm aware of this, but since the thread starter mentioned Pavlik-Hopkins when Pavlik was the best Middleweight in the world, I figured mentioning when an undefeated guy with no title or world class level experience getting beaten by an old pro was relevant.

[Violent Demise]

There's a big difference between prospect and contender. Not to mention prospect and former champion. Prospect and actual champion? I'm not even gonna bother with that one. Damn near all the ones mentioned don't even apply.

Joe Calzaghe-Jeff Lacy
Bernard Hopkins-Kelly Pavlik/Felix Trinidad
Michael Grant-Lennox Lewis
Ray Mercer-Jesse Ferguson/Larry Holmes
Jesse James Leija-Juan Lazcano
Reggie Johnson-William Guthrie
Carl Froch-Lucian Bute
Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye

Lacy, Bute, Haye and Trinidad where actual champions when they lost. Pavlik, Mercer and Guthrie were former champions. Lazcano (who didn't even lose) and Grant were contenders. None of them were close to being consider a young prospect.

Leija-Bojado. Guerrero-Brewer and Thompson-Haye apply. Those are good examples of prospect vs verteran. The rest are just moronic examples

I dunno meing, Guthrie had a trinket but in reality he was as pure untested 'prospect' as they come. Took courts and judges for a shot at a stripped gimme trinket and then pole axed by written off inactive, totally unranked veteran in Johnson, who was jumping up not one but two weight classes. Poor dude peaked and crashed for good all in 4+ rounds?! I got Rubio clowning Bojado above Leija pulling it off.

Guthrie was 31 years old. How is that a "Young" prospect?

In ring experience he was a pup and hardly building up wear and tear, ring miles is what I think largley counts. You got alot of guys not even hitting notoriety or trinkets until late 20's. Guerrero was a deeper 'contender' than Guthrie, though younger he had logged tougher comp in only a couple fights less at time of loss.

I just don't consider any fighter who's champion to be a prospect

[Spicoli]

There's a big difference between prospect and contender. Not to mention prospect and former champion. Prospect and actual champion? I'm not even gonna bother with that one. Damn near all the ones mentioned don't even apply.

Joe Calzaghe-Jeff Lacy
Bernard Hopkins-Kelly Pavlik/Felix Trinidad
Michael Grant-Lennox Lewis
Ray Mercer-Jesse Ferguson/Larry Holmes
Jesse James Leija-Juan Lazcano
Reggie Johnson-William Guthrie
Carl Froch-Lucian Bute
Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye

Lacy, Bute, Haye and Trinidad where actual champions when they lost. Pavlik, Mercer and Guthrie were former champions. Lazcano (who didn't even lose) and Grant were contenders. None of them were close to being consider a young prospect.

Leija-Bojado. Guerrero-Brewer and Thompson-Haye apply. Those are good examples of prospect vs verteran. The rest are just moronic examples

I dunno meing, Guthrie had a trinket but in reality he was as pure untested 'prospect' as they come. Took courts and judges for a shot at a stripped gimme trinket and then pole axed by written off inactive, totally unranked veteran in Johnson, who was jumping up not one but two weight classes. Poor dude peaked and crashed for good all in 4+ rounds?! I got Rubio clowning Bojado above Leija pulling it off.

Guthrie was 31 years old. How is that a "Young" prospect?

In ring experience he was a pup and hardly building up wear and tear, ring miles is what I think largley counts. You got alot of guys not even hitting notoriety or trinkets until late 20's. Guerrero was a deeper 'contender' than Guthrie, though younger he had logged tougher comp in only a couple fights less at time of loss.

I just don't consider any fighter who's champion to be a prospect

Yeh, I get ya there dude. Just thinks its all become so watered down now and just a selling point with trinkets handed out hand over fist for the next guy.

[dollarandadream]

There are some fights i am going to look up because I do not remember all of them