Untapped potential

[Master]

Fernando Vargas was the most talented up and coming fighter I have ever seen and was probably pushed too far and too fast too early.

[Boxer4life]

Fernando Vargas was the most talented up and coming fighter I have ever seen and was probably pushed too far and too fast too early.

reminds me a little of what just happened to canelo

[El Kabong]

Fernando Vargas was the most talented up and coming fighter I have ever seen and was probably pushed too far and too fast too early.

reminds me a little of what just happened to canelo

Fernado also fell in love with his power and stopped boxing as much.

Vernon Forest, he got 2 signature wins over Shane Mosley but once the shoulder injury took his power he was done for. Paul Williams, sadly due to his motorcycle accident he didn't achieve his entire potential which could have been great (though due to the Martinez KO I think he was getting close to his plateau).

You could make this JUST about heavyweights and have a never ending list be it from their injuries, early losses, prison, inactivity, poor match making, psychological instability, drug use: Ike Ibeabuchi, Michael Grant, Andrew Golota, Joe Mesi, Sam Peter, Cris Arreola, Lamon Brewster.....


How good would Lamon Brewster have been had he never injured his knee? He was a hell of a fighter! He probably could have had a better trainer but he really was a solid fighter.

[Rantcatrat]

Recently in the heavyweight division, I would argue Odlanier Solis. He was a terrific amateur, and hasn't achieved much as a professional.

[Fenster]

Have these fighters really underachieved? A guy like Zab Judah is super talented but is mentally weak. However, when comparing him with the millions that have attempted boxing is he really mentally weak?

What makes speed, power, timing more an asset than heart, brains, granite ears?

If Khan had a granite chin/ear we wouldn't currently see him as the fighter he is.

(fuck sake i'm boring myself )

[J_Undisputed]

Add Francisco Bojado to the list... Juan Diaz came back so maybe we will see if there's more in the future for him. I was never big on ricardo Williams jr. but he might technically fit.

I can see Fenster's Point though. For many of these shooting stars that burned out too fast... they fell by the wayside not because they didn't have what they needed. They had it and took it for granted. Zab Judah could have stuck with lou duva and Ronnie shields in stead of bring his big mouth father in to keep the money in the family. Khan could have listened to instructions instead of trying to slug it out with people. Tua and Mosely could have left their wives at home. The truth is there a lot of guys that start off well because they have the right people around them. Then they p*$$ all that way for stardom and trying to cut corners with cheaper managers, more laid back trainers and the next thing you know the gym is full of hype men and hangers on.

p.s. also put Edwin Valero on that list.

[Britkid]

Add Francisco Bojado to the list...

LOL, I remember being high on Muhammad Abdullaev too. I think the words 'new Duran' may of come from my keyboard...

[Britkid]

Fernando Vargas was the most talented up and coming fighter I have ever seen and was probably pushed too far and too fast too early.

Never brought into him personally. Hyped too much even before the disappointing Olympics...

[Violent Demise]

Fernando Vargas was the most talented up and coming fighter I have ever seen and was probably pushed too far and too fast too early.

Vargas was pushed just right. He wasn't rushed. His career pretty much ended when he hurt his back. He was never the same

[Saddo]

I'll also add Joe Calzaghe to the list because after he beat Eubank for the title which was a fantastic win for such a young fighter he was never really showcased or pushed into superfights until 9-10 years later.

which was a waste of years for such a talented fighter IMHO

[El Kabong]

I'll also add Joe Calzaghe to the list because after he beat Eubank for the title which was a fantastic win for such a young fighter he was never really showcased or pushed into superfights until 9-10 years later.

which was a waste of years for such a talented fighter IMHO

YES! Fight RJJ, Toney, Hopkins during prime years! Calzaghe would have really improved his standing outside of England (hard to believe but true) had he done that win or lose (as long as he was competitive)