Roy Jones dominated Hopkins and Toney, enough said
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Roy Jones dominated Hopkins and Toney, enough said
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This doesn't get mentioned enough IMO. Two excellent fighters were bamboozled against Roy - although I feel Bernard wasn't as mentally strong as he had later become, or is now. You can see little traits that he has now that come so naturally (even something as small as putting your hands up in defiance as the end of a close round) were a little slow or even feeble. A bit too 'honest' in his approach IMO.
None the less, Roy did exceptionally well against two (truly) elite fighters.
I think, records and resume's aside - I like Roy's talent better. It's more unearthly![]()
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^Agreed. I think people make excuses for those wins. I hear "well it wasn't PRIME Hopkins" and "well Toney had to lose a lot of weight before hand". Hopkins was 5 years in the game, just like Roy, and was a nasty fighter already and was a top middleweight. And James Toney, he ALWAYS had to lose a lot of weight before fights, and NOBODY ever obliterated James Toney like Jones did. Jones pitched a shutout in my books.
People also don't give him enough credit for winning a HW title. Even if Ruiz was no Lennox Lewis, he was still a highly capable (albiet boring) HW.
Roy Jones was one of a kind.
I am surprised and happy to see so many people giving credit to Roy, the way i like to look at this is say pound 4 pound, they fight, Jones wins that battle everytime in my humble opinion, i honestly don't think anyone in middleweight or light heavyweight history can beat a prime roy jones jr. That being said though, legacy wise, Floyd has a bit better resume(not roys fault) and he is more consistent in his old age. But then you have to look at the way roy jumped classes and obliterated guys. So all in all, Roy all the way, and this is coming from a huge Mayweather fan. Sorry for the thinking on text.
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For people not to give RJJ credit on winning the WBA title off of John Ruiz would be silly! RJJ not only won that fight but he blue printed John Ruiz and James Toney & David Haye used RJJ's gameplan to beat him. Before that only Tua had worked over Ruiz, everyone else, EVERYONE else had trouble with him and those guys weren't the puncher that Tua was.
Floyd is amazing, but RJJ was just damned ridiculous...playing basketball before a fight, rapping his own intro, hands behind the back KO, I mean RJJ seriously clowned some very capable fighters.
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Roy gets too much credit for beating Ruiz. It's more a minority of hardcore fans that understand he beat an average/ranked heavyweight not THE world champion. Was it a very impressive win for a light heavyweight? Yes. Does it mean he achieved some amazing unfathomable feat by beating a guy given a WBA title? No.
Just in recent times, lots of fighters have have moved from lightheavy to beat average/ranked heavyweights.
Overall though I'd pick prime Roy P4P over Floyd even though his record is inferior.
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