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"A good stickgrappler has good stick skills, good grappling, & good stickgrappling & can keep track of all 3 simultaneously. This is a good trick & can be quite effective." - Marc 'Crafty Dog' Denny
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To add to Bradlee's points:
Frank Shamrock hates the UFC, to the point of calling it "yoU Fight Cheap"
"A good stickgrappler has good stick skills, good grappling, & good stickgrappling & can keep track of all 3 simultaneously. This is a good trick & can be quite effective." - Marc 'Crafty Dog' Denny
It's all relative: 600 thousand seems a lot for a single fight, but if that man's PPV sold comparable PPVs as a Pacquiao fight, then why does Pacquiao get 25 million for a single fight? And Mayweather too though he gets no endorsement money because of his multiple convictions for beating women.
...because dana white and the fertittas make millions each show on the backs of the fighters who risk their health, that's why!
Boxers a hundred years ago were making what top UFC fighters make right now, and I don't mean adjusted for inflation...
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yeah i agree zuffa has a stranglehold on the money, but a lot of the fighters fight not for the money, but it's in their blood... they live and breathe mma.
iirc, tank abbott either/or chuck liddell (or both!) has a quote something to the effect of 'i'd fight for free' because they are fighters.
the money is much more lucrative in boxing, definitely in the upper echelons, but for a fighter who really wants to test himself, he trains multi-dimensional a la mma and one-dimensional like boxing hands-only (not dissing boxing), but the mma athlete wants a fuller 'game'/total test of skills vs training hands only
if they were really into it for the money, they would've went to boxing
"A good stickgrappler has good stick skills, good grappling, & good stickgrappling & can keep track of all 3 simultaneously. This is a good trick & can be quite effective." - Marc 'Crafty Dog' Denny
Yeah, you can't fault a guy for tryin' to make a living.
I respect those MMA fighters.
But the thread-starter was inquiring why are the UFC fighter salaries so low considering the PPV buys.
Low pay clearly doesn't dissuade the fighters as this is how it's been all along.
The fighters know something's wrong when dana white keeps saying boxing's dying yet they read in the press that elite boxers top the list of highest paid athletes across ALL sports, while many good UFC fighters like Jon Fitch made the news when discussing his ufc pay over 7-and-a-half years. Many of these fighters don't know how these 2 combat-sports are set up fundamentally different.
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ack! i read too fast, thx for pointing that out bradlee!
sorry for digression
"A good stickgrappler has good stick skills, good grappling, & good stickgrappling & can keep track of all 3 simultaneously. This is a good trick & can be quite effective." - Marc 'Crafty Dog' Denny
I think that would be because they had complete shit for brains, with no morality and nowhere near the talent or skills to have ever had the equivalent success in anything. They were lucky to make more than they would have digging ditches or whatever the hell else they were capable of. Let alone another sport, let alone boxing, those guys were downright bums.
Most of your post is perfectly fair, that's just my takeThere are much more talented and sophisticated guys coming up in MMA these days, and a lot of what leads them to it over boxing say, is surely just passion for the sport. I don't think you can understate the peer recognition aspect of it either, kids don't watch boxing by and large, so people aren't going to take up boxing as a social thing, or to impress anyone etc, which is instrumental in getting young people into sports.
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Woah...take it easy on Chuck. Great ambassador for the sport and a great fighter.
Most bad government has grown out of too much government. Thomas Jefferson
Not sure about Weidman but I know guys like Anderson and GSP make MUCHO $$ per fight. Not Floyd Mayweather salaries by any stretch, but millions.
I hate when people say that. Anybody with a career in athletics or arts probably got into it because they loved it and it's in their blood, but everyone needs to make a living. And if you have to work a second job to support yourself, that's significantly less time you can spend doing that thing you love.
Sadly, a lot of lower ufc ifghters have to work 2 jobs.
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