The Master Boxer, CHRIS JOHN

[FinitoElDinamita]

What are your thoughts on this badd ass guy and how do u think the current contender and titlists at 126 would far against him??

[Silkeyjoe]

Id say Garcia beats him easily. Other then that Id give him great chance against anyone else in the div.

[Rantcatrat]

Aka The Indonesia Felix Sturm. He's a waste. He hasn't ventured out of Indonesia in years and his fellow Indonesian, Daud Yordan, faces tougher challenges than he does. He's the longest running champion at featherweight, but when was the last time he faced someone with a pulse?

[FinitoElDinamita]

Aka The Indonesia Felix Sturm. He's a waste. He hasn't ventured out of Indonesia in years and his fellow Indonesian, Daud Yordan, faces tougher challenges than he does. He's the longest running champion at featherweight, but when was the last time he faced someone with a pulse?

You are right bro but with fighters like Chris JOhn and Sturm, they have a huge fan base at home and they can make more money fighting stiffs in their backyard than fighting in the states for lot less money..

American boxing fans tend to find guys like JOhn and Sturm boring so they are not really demanding those guys to come to the states anyways, are they?

When CHris JOhn fought Rocky Juarez, how much do u think he got? not nearly as much as what he gets in Indonesia..

THe first big fight Sturm got into in the states was against OScar delahoya and he got robbed so what makes u think he wants to fight here again?

NOt all fighters can have the luxury of these two fighters especially when looking at their non-fan friendly style but regardless, they have a huge fans base in their country so they dont find the need to fight in America..

[Rantcatrat]

Aka The Indonesia Felix Sturm. He's a waste. He hasn't ventured out of Indonesia in years and his fellow Indonesian, Daud Yordan, faces tougher challenges than he does. He's the longest running champion at featherweight, but when was the last time he faced someone with a pulse?

You are right bro but with fighters like Chris JOhn and Sturm, they have a huge fan base at home and they can make more money fighting stiffs in their backyard than fighting in the states for lot less money..

American boxing fans tend to find guys like JOhn and Sturm boring so they are not really demanding those guys to come to the states anyways, are they?

When CHris JOhn fought Rocky Juarez, how much do u think he got? not nearly as much as what he gets in Indonesia..

THe first big fight Sturm got into in the states was against OScar delahoya and he got robbed so what makes u think he wants to fight here again?

NOt all fighters can have the luxury of these two fighters especially when looking at their non-fan friendly style but regardless, they have a huge fans base in their country so they dont find the need to fight in America..

This is true. However, it's one thing to demand to fight in Indonesia and another thing to not take on challenges. How can we gauge how good he really is? By the way, John has a lot of skills. I just wish we could see him facing another top featherweight every once in a while, here or in Indonesia.

[Tam Seddon]

The master of wasted talent, overprotected bum

[Silkeyjoe]

He (controversially) beat JMM. He is a very good technician. Has Mayweather ever fought out of his home country. John is a good fighter. He's past his best now though.

[Rantcatrat]

He (controversially) beat JMM. He is a very good technician. Has Mayweather ever fought out of his home country. John is a good fighter. He's past his best now though.

No, he hasn't, and there are complaints over Mayweather's choice of opponents, BUT Mayweather has faced some good boxers. I can't recall the last legit challenge to John's featherweight crown, other than perhaps, Daud Yordan. In my opinion, Yordan has faced tougher challenges than John has recently.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Aka The Indonesia Felix Sturm. He's a waste. He hasn't ventured out of Indonesia in years and his fellow Indonesian, Daud Yordan, faces tougher challenges than he does. He's the longest running champion at featherweight, but when was the last time he faced someone with a pulse?

You are right bro but with fighters like Chris JOhn and Sturm, they have a huge fan base at home and they can make more money fighting stiffs in their backyard than fighting in the states for lot less money..

American boxing fans tend to find guys like JOhn and Sturm boring so they are not really demanding those guys to come to the states anyways, are they?

When CHris JOhn fought Rocky Juarez, how much do u think he got? not nearly as much as what he gets in Indonesia..

THe first big fight Sturm got into in the states was against OScar delahoya and he got robbed so what makes u think he wants to fight here again?

NOt all fighters can have the luxury of these two fighters especially when looking at their non-fan friendly style but regardless, they have a huge fans base in their country so they dont find the need to fight in America..

This is true. However, it's one thing to demand to fight in Indonesia and another thing to not take on challenges. How can we gauge how good he really is? By the way, John has a lot of skills. I just wish we could see him facing another top featherweight every once in a while, here or in Indonesia.

Yup I'd like to see him more willing to face big names just as his countryman Daud Yordan who just issiued a challenge to Gamboa on the pac rios undercard.

He's been in this game too long and he's too good to be wasting his skills on lesser foes.

I'd love to see a young gun like Fortuna take him on

[CutMeMick]

Chris Johns list of opponents makes Pongsaklek Wongjonkams record look like an ATG...

Not only wasted talent but he doesn't realize as far as boxing goes and legacy he's not doing himself any favors... Seems to me he is more interested in the money than legacy. I have no issues with that but he can't come over with that bullshit of trying to demand pay and venues etc. etc.

JMM beat him I had the fight 7 rounds to 5 in favor of JMM...

John to me is like Samson Dutch Boy Gym but with a more recognizable belt.

[fan johnny]

Chris Johns list of opponents makes Pongsaklek Wongjonkams record look like an ATG...

Not only wasted talent but he doesn't realize as far as boxing goes and legacy he's not doing himself any favors... Seems to me he is more interested in the money than legacy. I have no issues with that but he can't come over with that bullshit of trying to demand pay and venues etc. etc.

JMM beat him I had the fight 7 rounds to 5 in favor of JMM...

John to me is like Samson Dutch Boy Gym but with a more recognizable belt.

Marquez is a way better fighter than no argument, but Marquez lost that fight to John on points, just as he's going to lose against Bradley if he gets in the ring unless Bradley gets stupid. Marquez simply can't handle the outside style.

[Rantcatrat]

Chris Johns list of opponents makes Pongsaklek Wongjonkams record look like an ATG...

Not only wasted talent but he doesn't realize as far as boxing goes and legacy he's not doing himself any favors... Seems to me he is more interested in the money than legacy. I have no issues with that but he can't come over with that bullshit of trying to demand pay and venues etc. etc.

JMM beat him I had the fight 7 rounds to 5 in favor of JMM...

John to me is like Samson Dutch Boy Gym but with a more recognizable belt.

I know I am in the minority and I don't want to bring up old wounds, but if I remember correctly, I had the fight close. I think I John up in that fight 7-5, or a draw in rounds, but considering the (two?) point deductions against Marquez, had John winning the fight.

In any event, that fight was 7 years ago. I mean at some point he has to stop trading on that win. It's not like there haven't been good fights out there at or around lightweight for John in the past 7 years. Heck, how about a super Indonesia versus the Philippines mega-fight between John and Donaire?