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    Default Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him

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    Either K2 provides a relatively even match up. I think if Lennox had his tactic spot on, he'd have a better chance with Vitali due to VKs lack of skill but Wladimir honestly is just as capable of flattening Lennox as is anyone.

    Also, Larry has the jab, chin heart and conditioning to carry the fight so that's a tough one.

    Lastly I think it's far to say that Evander has the style and attributes to give Lennox a rough night at any point of their respective careers- right up until the point that they actually met.

    Ali? Hmm, I'm very dubious of how easy it is to overrate him. However, he achieved so much, he was just a winner.

    Disagree totally. Wlad has no overhand right, no inside game and isn't much of a counter puncher. Have you ever seen Lewis badly hurt by a straight punch? No reason to give Wlad any more chance to KO Lewis than Vitali had in that respect, although he does hit harder. I think a great many fighters were better suited for Lennox myself, much lesser ones than Wlad at that. I don't see how Wlad even gets around Lewis having the better jab, let alone being so much more dynamic offensively.
    Damn right he hits harder

    He hits harder than most no?

    Wlad is bigger, just as strong if not stronger, in my opinion has the better jab and overall is more accurate and potent and athletic and quicker and...

    Seriously, just because you've seen Lennox get dropped by overhand rights that's only because he hadn't fought someone with the superior combination (and utilisation) of height, boxing ability and power.

    There is a very good chance that Lennox would become frustrated by the superior jab/ long game/ footwork of Wladimir's and try to impose himself physically only putting himself at a further disadvantage and on course to getting flattened... unless Wladimir simply folds again under the pressure that Lennox would HAVE to assert.
    Wladimir couldn't KO David Haye, but Lennox Lewis would have no choice but to go out on his shield huh Who the hell has Wlad ever fought that's even close to Lewis, I think you're being fairly wishful here. Each his own...but Wlad more athletic, seriously? I guess power, quickness and footwork are debatable in themselves, but he had nowhere near the overall athleticism or depth that Lennox did, he is so mechanical in comparison there are no words. My point was that Lennox was knocked out both times by shorter men who threw wide while stepping in. Wlad never throws that way, is never in position to, so it's very unlikely he'd catch Lennox in a similar fashion. Does Wlad hit hard enough to hurt him with a straight right that Lennox would see coming? It's certainly possible, but I wouldn't bet on it. On the flip side, I have a pretty hard time seeing Wlad taking anything solid from Lewis as would most I suspect. If a fight broke out at ANY point in close, Wlad would be the one getting flattened.

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    Default Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Either K2 provides a relatively even match up. I think if Lennox had his tactic spot on, he'd have a better chance with Vitali due to VKs lack of skill but Wladimir honestly is just as capable of flattening Lennox as is anyone.

    Also, Larry has the jab, chin heart and conditioning to carry the fight so that's a tough one.

    Lastly I think it's far to say that Evander has the style and attributes to give Lennox a rough night at any point of their respective careers- right up until the point that they actually met.

    Ali? Hmm, I'm very dubious of how easy it is to overrate him. However, he achieved so much, he was just a winner.

    Disagree totally. Wlad has no overhand right, no inside game and isn't much of a counter puncher. Have you ever seen Lewis badly hurt by a straight punch? No reason to give Wlad any more chance to KO Lewis than Vitali had in that respect, although he does hit harder. I think a great many fighters were better suited for Lennox myself, much lesser ones than Wlad at that. I don't see how Wlad even gets around Lewis having the better jab, let alone being so much more dynamic offensively.
    Damn right he hits harder

    He hits harder than most no?

    Wlad is bigger, just as strong if not stronger, in my opinion has the better jab and overall is more accurate and potent and athletic and quicker and...

    Seriously, just because you've seen Lennox get dropped by overhand rights that's only because he hadn't fought someone with the superior combination (and utilisation) of height, boxing ability and power.

    There is a very good chance that Lennox would become frustrated by the superior jab/ long game/ footwork of Wladimir's and try to impose himself physically only putting himself at a further disadvantage and on course to getting flattened... unless Wladimir simply folds again under the pressure that Lennox would HAVE to assert.
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Wladimir couldn't KO David Haye, but Lennox Lewis would have no choice but to go out on his shield huh
    What does Haye have to do with anything? Haye had his game-plan which required Wladimir to do something alien to his instincts and it failed. Lennox was obviously the more destructive fighter and dare I say more exciting but Wladimir is by far the more disciplined fighter (admittedly though, mostly out of necessity) and negated any threat while banking a majority of the rounds.

    Just look at the Shannon Briggs fight, Lennox was looking foolish at times and practically gave up trying to box in sports. Hands down, tomfoolery etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Who the hell has Wlad ever fought that's even close to Lewis, I think you're being fairly wishful here.
    No I'm just putting it out there. Lennox is my guy but Wladimir hits harder than his brother, is faster than his brother, is a better boxer and is more coordinated than his brother so it's perfectly viable that he would a better job than his brother, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Each his own...but Wlad more athletic, seriously? I guess power, quickness and footwork are debatable in themselves, but he had nowhere near the overall athleticism or depth that Lennox did, he is so mechanical in comparison there are no words.
    Lennox was not quick and was somewhat clumsy on his feet - Which is partly why someone with a good jab could give him problems. Personally, I think Wladimir is pretty good on his feet and his overall athleticism IMO is far greater.

    Take this how you like but I get the feeling Wladimir could excel at sports to a degree that Lennox could not. He could probably run faster, jump higher, swim further. Is more balletic. Is probably a smarter man and a better thinker.

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    Does Wlad hit hard enough to hurt him with a straight right that Lennox would see coming?
    Probably. Yeah I'd say so.

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    On the flip side, I have a pretty hard time seeing Wlad taking anything solid from Lewis as would most I suspect. If a fight broke out at ANY point in close, Wlad would be the one getting flattened.
    I am not necessarily disagreeing with that.
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