88 Mike Tyson vs Ike Ibeabuchi

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Now as a boxing (and football) fan I don't necessarily WANT to open this can of worms, but could CTE caused from the Tua fight (or previous fights) have caused his mental health problems? I say there's a distinct possibility.

Ike may have a good chin but Mike didnt throw one left hook at a time. Not back then. Tis kimd of thread pops up all the time where certain people refuse to give any kimd of credit for what Mike was and achieved before King ruined him.

#1 Watch Ibeabuchi vs Tua....one hook at a time, please

#2 If anything people overrate Tyson more than underrate him. Just because people offer up a slight critique here and there doesn't mean they think he was a crap fighter. He was a great fighter nobody questions that, exactly HOW GREAT is the debatable point and rightfully so.

How can Mike be over rated? A man that in a space of just 2 years had 8 fights that left no question as to who the best was. He unified the title beating 3 separate belt holders, the lineal champ and absolutely anihalated Spinks the lineal champ and Holmes who went on to beat Mercer and push Holyfield and McCall.

There will always be questions as to who is the best now. Wlad may be beaten by Vitali if they fought. The only way for one to be the best of this era is for the other to lose or retire so his brother can win and hold that belt.

[El Kabong]

How can Mike be over rated? A man that in a space of just 2 years had 8 fights that left no question as to who the best was. He unified the title beating 3 separate belt holders, the lineal champ and absolutely anihalated Spinks the lineal champ and Holmes who went on to beat Mercer and push Holyfield and McCall.

There will always be questions as to who is the best now. Wlad may be beaten by Vitali if they fought. The only way for one to be the best of this era is for the other to lose or retire so his brother can win and hold that belt.

Tyson can be overrated when people (ahem) talk about him as an unbeatable God of the sport.

Again, another person wants to bring up the Klitschko's to defend an undefendable position focus on the topic at hand, please...I don't want to make this a Klitschko vs Tyson pissing contest it's a question of 88 Tyson vs Ibeabuchi I don't see how the Klitschko's factor into this.

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Bringing up the Klitschkos was as you know full well, in response to Tyson being called over rated.

Like I said, Mike was more dominant and left no debate as to who the best in the world was whereas nowadays, who is the unquestionable best? If anyone say Wlad then he's just as over rated as Tyson. Until there is only one champ again there will never be an answer.

Ibeabuchi has to be the most over rated fighter ever! He has probably thousands of threads about him over the internet but did he ever even fight a former title challenger?

He is most known for taking lots of punches from David Tua. He would not take lots of punches from Mike Tyson

Also, the ref got a bit excited when he stopped Byrd. Look at this and got to 28.28. Ike never even hit him again after the first knockdown and Byrd was alert enought to be making him miss with everything.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1autctlnlHQ

[El Kabong]

He is most known for taking lots of punches from David Tua. He would not take lots of punches from Mike Tyson

Well of course, because David Tua is just a mere mortal compared to Tyson

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He is most known for taking lots of punches from David Tua. He would not take lots of punches from Mike Tyson

Well of course, because David Tua is just a mere mortal compared to Tyson

This isn't total hyperbole though, if we are talking anything besides pure one punch power Tua didn't have anything much on a young Tyson. In fact doing some boxrec sleuthing Tua had a rougher streak around that time than I remembered. You made me think with the Nigerian fighters, I'm not sure I've ever actually seen David Izon. Tua stopped him in the 12th just two fights before meeting Ike, any idea how that went until the stoppage? Tuas fight after that was the come from behind KO of Maskaev where he was being outboxed, etc.
Britkid makes a great point about Ibeabuchi likely thriving on being such a mental case, if he had any of the skills people liked to say he did, he probably would've at least boxed Tua in spots. It wasn't the hardest ask in the world for a good big man.

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He is most known for taking lots of punches from David Tua. He would not take lots of punches from Mike Tyson

Well of course, because David Tua is just a mere mortal compared to Tyson

Tua never beat a world champ.

How many did Mike beat?

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We're not talking about beating champs, we're talking about pure sledgehammer blows to the dome. Tua didn't have half of Mike's talent or skill, but if he tagged you on the chin you'd go to sleep just as fast as a Tyson haymaker.

[El Kabong]

Tua never beat a world champ.

How many did Mike beat?

...how many did Shavers beat or Ron Lyle.....doesn't mean they couldn't clean your clock Mr. Erroneous Argument

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He is most known for taking lots of punches from David Tua. He would not take lots of punches from Mike Tyson

Well of course, because David Tua is just a mere mortal compared to Tyson

Yes.

We're not talking about beating champs, we're talking about pure sledgehammer blows to the dome. Tua didn't have half of Mike's talent or skill, but if he tagged you on the chin you'd go to sleep just as fast as a Tyson haymaker.

No he didnt.

Tua never beat a world champ.

How many did Mike beat?

...how many did Shavers beat or Ron Lyle.....doesn't mean they couldn't clean your clock Mr. Erroneous Argument

They too were also mere mortals.