
Originally Posted by
Raeder

Originally Posted by
bilbo

Originally Posted by
Raeder

Originally Posted by
bilbo

Originally Posted by
Raeder
As I read the discussion, it appears that it is about a potential American "star." If that is the case, I submit Oleg Makaev is just that. He now holds a belt, and there are some top ten fighters, some of whom are not Americans, who want to fight him. Sure, the three Americans mentioned, (i.e., Brewster, Peter and Brock) would be quite worthy opponents for Maskaev, but aren't we talking about those "non-Americans?"
Bilbo, one has to be intelligent to engage in an intelligent discussion. You have a limited intellectual background so do not write well. You call me many scurrilous names; that is okay; the truth is that your postings reflect your admitted lifestyle (i.e., "I'm a bit gay.") and that is homosexual. Oleg Maskaev has a lovely family; it is decidedly "American." He is a professional, and will be cheered by many Americans. You must resent his family and Maskaev's low-keyed masculinity laced with humility and individual ruggedness. That is also very "American."
Mate just becuse Maskaev lives in the US and has a passport doesn't make him American. I think most Americans would rather not root for anybody than support a Khazakstani.
I guess you think Abu Hamza, the wacko guy with a hook for a hand is British?
Oleg Makaev is an American citizen who lives on Staten Island with his lovely wife and four kids whom he says are getting a "good" education. He also boasts his wife has a good job. He is soft spoken and speaks with a distinct accent which is not troublesome. Now that is All-American. Let me repeat ALL-AMERICAN!!!!
Yes I undestand the technocalities of him being a US citizen but you are completely deluding yourself if you think the US public are going to root for him as one of their own.
To the American public at large he is Russian, and yes I know he's from Khazakstan not Russia as well
When Lennox Lewis decided to ditch Canada once he turned pro and reassumed his British identity the British public never accepted him even though he was by far the greatest heavyweight ever to represent our country.
When he fought Gary Mason, and even more so when he faced Bruno virtually the entire nation was behind his opponents.
The majority of sports fans, myself included are proud patriots and will never take to a foreigner over a born and bred Brit in a hundred years.
I can think of only one exception in the whole history of the world and that is Arnold Schwarzzenegger.
You can tell keep telling yourself that Oleg is an American citizen until you are blue in the face but you are never going to get the American public to ever think of him as anything other than Russian.
Am I right or am I right?

You are not right, but only negative and pedantic. The American public will support Oleg Maskaev as long as he wins; it is my understanding you will not. As far as Scwarzenegger, he is an entertainment icon who appeals to the lowest common denominator intellectually, even in politics. Maskaev will retire financially set and with dignity. Perhaps THIS is what bothers you. You see, he is the warrior, you are not, only a sour pedantic "negativist." Go Maskaev, the All-American guy with his All-American family on Staten Island living the American dream!
The American public will support Oleg Maskaev as long as he wins 
Course they will mate. Poor Evander and Calvin Brock are sure in for a hostile reception if they fights Maskaev any time soon
As far as Scwarzenegger, he is an entertainment icon who appeals to the lowest common denominator intellectually, even in politics. You completely lost me here.

I would have thought that Arnold embodies the American Dream more than any other man in history, born in a remote Austrian village rising to become the biggest action hero movie star of all time and now Governor of the most important State in America, but hey what do I know, it's your argument eh?
You see, he is the warrior, you are not, only a sour pedantic "negativist I'm not being negativist at all just realistic. I've got no axe to grind against Oleg, I'm not even American, I'm merely stating the patently obvious truth that Oleg will not become a popular American fighter.
If you honestly and sincerely believe that if and when Oleg faces Calvin Brock, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, Lamon Brewster or any of the other American guys out there that he will be the American's fan favourite then you are simply an idiot.
And if you were trying to prove a point you completely undermined it by dismissing Arnold as intellectually appealing to the lowest common denominator. How moronic to accuse me of being negative towards Oleg's Americanism when you are completely negative concerning Arnie.
You are a hyprocrital buffoon and I consider it an embarrassment on my part to have attempted to engage you in an intelligent debate.
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