Right hook/overhand/cross/straight

[greynotsoold]

I use some real technical terminology...
"Keep the elbow down and just shoot it."
"Bring it back over the top."
"Bring it up from underneath."
Specifically, that would be a straight right hand, a right hand that comes over the opponent's left shoulder and/or jab, a right uppercut. That's about it. A lot of guys go around inventing terminology because they think it makes them sound real smart.

[cocobeware]

I thought an overhand right was a fairly common shot but perhaps they were just straight rights with the elbow up/out..? I sort of thought that was a no no with the straight right.

It seems to be more with short right hands,Perhaps this is because if you cant get full extension on it then it sort of smothers the shot but if you pop the elbow out you can still get a good snap to it.

Might see if I can find some videos to help explain.

[cocobeware]

Sorry to bump this thread again but I came across this which explains it pretty well..Boxing | Right cross Straight right Difference

I realize a lot of people use the term right cross and straight right to mean the same thing but would it be fair to say that the punch most commonly used as a right cross counter would be an overhand right..?

[StrictlySP]

Hi cocobeware,
Your questions have been answered but here's my two cents on the overhand/cross/straight right hand angle.

An overhand right was originally called a right cross. In the last three to four decades or so, a right cross has come to be synonymous with a straight right hand, which is a term still commonly used as well. Anyway, I believe this came into being as the term "cross" is a singular name for a rear-handed straight shot that compliments the "jab," which represents a singular name for a lead-handed straight shot. With that, the classic one-two came to be widely called the jab-cross. Since that transition, the term "right cross" as meaning an overhand right has been rendered obsolete in boxing parlance.

On another note regarding terminology, one thing that irritates me with boxing commentators is their unwillingness to call a rear-handed hook, a hook punch. They'll call it anything but, ranging from an overhand right to a looping right hand, when it is clearly a rear-handed hook punch.

I think it's silly that boxing purists don't acknowledge the existence of a rear-handed hook in a boxer's arsenal because it does exists (as a natural bilateral complement to a lead-handed left hook), which is frequently used by countless boxers, pro and amateur, whether or not it's "officially" acknowledged.

Below is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Watch from 1:30 to 2:25 and you'll clearly see the southpaw stance-based Pacquiao throwing a rear-handed left hook (to the right side of Ricky Hatton's jaw) to knock him clean out.



If I recall correctly, when Pacquiao was interviewed afterwards, the interviewer called the knockout punch an overhand but Pacquiao corrected him and said it was a hook.

Below is another example, this time courtesy of orthodox stance-based Roy Jones Jr. Watch from 2:22 to 2:36 and you'll clearly see Roy taking out Virgil Hill with a rear-handed right body hook to his left ribs/spleen area.



Anyway...

Take Care,
Lito

[cocobeware]

I hear what your saying about the rear handed hook,I have noticed that too.It seems to be more common with American boxing,I guess probably because it's always been considered a bit of a no no by some.

I hear the term right hook used quite commonly in the uk however at least in amature boxing.

I always thought looping right hand was just another name for an overhand right and short right hand i'm not too sure about other than it's up close and you pop the elbow somewhat.

[cocobeware]

But I'm gonna take greynotsoold advice said keep it simple.. It's can either go..
Straight down the middle(straight right hand)
Over the top (overhand)
Round the side (Hook)
From underneath (uppercut) in the right situation the first 3 can be classed as a cross counter(old school) But a lot of people use cross as another name for a straight(new school).

I think I was allowing myself to become bamboozled with different terms.

[cocobeware]

Also I have learned that the cross usually involves a slip to the inside of youre opponents jab.

This was the key thing that has helped me to understand the difference between the right cross and straight right.

Plus I have noticed that by taking a little step forward/left with my front foot when I slip inside, This will essentialy turn the punch into a right hook.