Not the same mentality at all. One is selfish and disallusioned and one is based on being part of a team, sacrifice, respect and discipline. The military is not just a job but rather a lifestyle and some people have a harder time than others letting go of their civilian lifestyle and embracing the military's. Good order and discipline are the foundation of any military. A "gangster" has to learn that their street credentials mean nothing and that they willfully joined a conformist organization. You start this with setting the right example and having their peers apply some pressure then you can graduate to taking their pay and time if they aren't getting it but with some of them simply showing them that the people they now work with are tougher and meaner than any street punk is the quickest and surest method. I train young men to go into harms way and hunt armed men. I don't have time to caudle some kid that thinks b/c he grew up in the projects he doesn't have to respect the authority my rank holds. You could ask just about any of my Soldiers that decdided they could whip my ass and they will tell you that the time they slipped in the shower was intregal in changing their attitude so that they could be successful in uniform. Are you saying I'm a person of low morality?