Terrible boxing journalists

[p4pking]

Steve Kim from maxboxing is a joke. Read his articles on Floyd and see how professional he is.

Even if Steve Kim had a bias against Floyd, which I don't know enough about him to agree one way or the other, Steve Kim and MaxBoxing have been go to sources for boxing writing for the last 15 years or so. I don't think it is fair to call him a joke.

I also think Gabriel Montoya from MaxBoxing has been one of the only boxing scribes to really take the PED matter seriously. Most other boxing writers shy away from it in order to not offend the powers that be.

Read one or two of his articles, you might change your mind. Plenty of esteemed journos who are mainstream, topical and influential, are still completely out to lunch, what makes a guy writing for a boxing website off limits Is it unfair to call Dan Rafael a joke as well? They both are.

[Gandalf]

Dan Rafael irritates me above all others and I go out of my way to avoid reading anything he writes. I try to avoid a fair chunk of so called boxing 'journalism' as it is seldom ever anything of the sort. It is almost like boxing is largely populated by Fox news style opinionists rather than anything cogent or informing. I read Fightnews to keep up to date, but that is as far as I go these days. You might as well watch the fights yourself rather than rely on the interpretations of others. It's the Wikileaks approach, just read documents and don't bother with the media filters that inevitably distort the world. Boxing has a lot of shitty faux 'journalists'.

[jehoshaphat]

Dan Rafael irritates me above all others and I go out of my way to avoid reading anything he writes. I try to avoid a fair chunk of so called boxing 'journalism' as it is seldom ever anything of the sort. It is almost like boxing is largely populated by Fox news style opinionists rather than anything cogent or informing. I read Fightnews to keep up to date, but that is as far as I go these days. You might as well watch the fights yourself rather than rely on the interpretations of others. It's the Wikileaks approach, just read documents and don't bother with the media filters that inevitably distort the world. Boxing has a lot of shitty faux 'journalists.

Perfectly said. Great points and advice.

[p4pking]

Does anyone remember when Dan Rafael got into a twitter war with Shannon Briggs about something? No idea what started it, but at some point Rafael tweeted something along the lines of "I wish you'd gone 5 more rounds with Vitali". This was said to a guy who had just taken the biggest ass whopping I'd seen in years, by a morbidly obese cunt who couldn't go 1 round with a heavy bag, yet makes his living off of the sport. He's a complete disgrace for that alone imo.

[Gandalf]

I don't recall that, but if so that is pretty outrageous. On a forum you can say silly things sometimes as a forum is typically all opinion, interpretation and bluster, but as a 'professional journalist' you just can't/shouldn't do that. It's akin to O'Reilly on Fox telling all of his guests to 'Shut up'. You should be sacked for that shit as you are supposedly the superior example to boxing fans being a 'journalist'. He is a hack and as you point out not a figure of health himself. When a whale is telling James Toney he is out of shape, I do find that to be mildly ironic to say the least. Sure Dan, and wipe that burger fat and ketchup blend off your beard! Tosser.

[Freedom]

I didn't like the way Teddy Atlas was being unfairly negative and giving no credit to Fonfara tonight.

Atlas is unprofessional in the way he always openly roots for one boxer or the other.

It was fitting when Fonfara won by KO, after Teddy was saying all night how Campillo was going to knock him out.

[Fenster]

I read Dan Rafael every week, not for his opinion, but because he provides facts and figures in his reports that interest me - purses, ticket sales, viewing figures, actual quotes, etc.

World of difference between a journalist and someone that writes opinion pieces for a site.

[FinitoElDinamita]

I didn't like the way Teddy Atlas was being unfairly negative and giving no credit to Fonfara tonight.

Atlas is unprofessional in the way he always openly roots for one boxer or the other.

It was fitting when Fonfara won by KO, after Teddy was saying all night how Campillo was going to knock him out.

I dont get why Teddy Atlas gets hated on so much.

Nice sig btw.. Povetkin looks like the Pillberry Dougboy standing next to Wlad. lol

[Tam Seddon]

That tam Seddon who sometimes posts articles on saddoboxing is awful.

[Master]

That tam Seddon who sometimes posts articles on saddoboxing is awful.

Yes can never make up his mind and sits on the fence way too much.

[nuggetdotcom]

Jeff Powell,

Without a doubt, for some reason the Daily Mail pay him to do boxing and football. In football all he does is back and promote Venables/Redknapp/Allardyce and all the other bent coaches who buy him lunches regularly, in boxing pretty much the same with Warren. But why on earth does he get the Vegas trips on expenses? Man's an idiot.

[Violent Demise]

That tam Seddon who sometimes posts articles on saddoboxing is awful.

He sill trying to get Saddoboxing changed to Frochboxing?

[Tam Seddon]

That tam Seddon who sometimes posts articles on saddoboxing is awful.

He sill trying to get Saddoboxing changed to Frochboxing?

Froch enterprises actually.

[jahmez]

Max Kellerman is alright when he's dealing with other journalists but as soon as he's alone with fighters he starts acting wierd. Tucks his chin in, stands tall, deepens his voice and tries to act tough but in the end he just looks like some kind of fucked up robot. I've got the DVD of the NC between Arce vs Rojas and the post fight interview is Max at his super serious worst. Novas says Arce threw in towel then Max mumbles "if that's a coward I'd hate to see a champion" then rotates his whole body at once towards Arce like a douchebag cyborg.

[TitoFan]

Jim Gray. You can ask tough questions without going out of your way to be confrontational. It's a miracle Gray hasn't been punched or thrown out of a ring with the way he conducts himself sometimes.