"The One" and why its a no win situation for floyd

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The catch-weight is there cuz of Floyd Mayweather. He's the one who wanted a catch-weight. Cotto is fine at 154. But not Alvarez? Come on now

Alvarez never had a problem with it though, this fight was made quickly and easily. Floyd clearly has no reason to fight above 147, both of his fights at 154 he's weighed in comfortably under that and looked slower than he ever has, what the hell is the point from his perspective.

Explain why he can fight Cotto at 154 but not Alvarez?

Maybe because he felt it didn't matter what weight he fought Cotto at, but then reconsidered after it was a much tougher fight than he expected. I'm not wearing rose glasses here or anything, just don't see any reason Floyd should give up advantages he doesn't have to.

In other words it was too tough right?

Why in other words? That's more or less what I said. Floyd is not a 154 pounder, he has no reason to fight in that division and since Alvarez feels he'd be comfortable dropping a couple of pounds that is what's happening.

And you think Mayweather is displaying championship behavior by forcing the 2 extra pounds? I find it funny how people just ignore Mayweather always contradicting himself just to avoid criticizing him. Mayweather has already said Cotto is better than Alvarez and is expecting an easier time. If that's the case than fight him at 154. It's that simple

Sure? I don't even know what that means, Floyd is hardly the first guy to do this and I really don't care what he says about anything. Why is all the onus on him over 2 freaking pounds? If Alvarez didn't like it, don't take the fight. No reason it only works one way.

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The catch-weight is there cuz of Floyd Mayweather. He's the one who wanted a catch-weight. Cotto is fine at 154. But not Alvarez? Come on now

Alvarez never had a problem with it though, this fight was made quickly and easily. Floyd clearly has no reason to fight above 147, both of his fights at 154 he's weighed in comfortably under that and looked slower than he ever has, what the hell is the point from his perspective.

Explain why he can fight Cotto at 154 but not Alvarez?

Maybe because he felt it didn't matter what weight he fought Cotto at, but then reconsidered after it was a much tougher fight than he expected. I'm not wearing rose glasses here or anything, just don't see any reason Floyd should give up advantages he doesn't have to.

In other words it was too tough right?

Why in other words? That's more or less what I said. Floyd is not a 154 pounder, he has no reason to fight in that division and since Alvarez feels he'd be comfortable dropping a couple of pounds that is what's happening.

And you think Mayweather is displaying championship behavior by forcing the 2 extra pounds? I find it funny how people just ignore Mayweather always contradicting himself just to avoid criticizing him. Mayweather has already said Cotto is better than Alvarez and is expecting an easier time. If that's the case than fight him at 154. It's that simple

Sure? I don't even know what that means, Floyd is hardly the first guy to do this and I really don't care what he says about anything. Why is all the onus on him over 2 freaking pounds? If Alvarez didn't like it, don't take the fight. No reason it only works one way.

Alvarez is doing it for the good of boxing. Everybody saw Mayweathe-Pacquiao not happen. Which is embarrassment for the sport of Boxing. Alvarez-Mayweather not happening would be another embarrassment. Against better judgment Alvarez decided not to let that happen

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Yes, I'm sure he's much more concerned about the "good of boxing" than the good of his bank account Alvarez would've taken the fight at 147 for free if he had to right?

I do understand calling Floyd out if he did bash Pacquiao for the Cotto catch weight, but it's the same thing there. Cotto agreed to it, and we have no idea whether it played any role in the fight, it's not an excuse.

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Yes, I'm sure he's much more concerned about the "good of boxing" than the good of his bank account Alvarez would've taken the fight at 147 for free if he had to right?

I do understand calling Floyd out if he did bash Pacquiao for the Cotto catch weight, but it's the same thing there. Cotto agreed to it, and we have no idea whether it played any role in the fight, it's not an excuse.

You don't think he deserves to be compensated for making the fight? Of course he does. Either way this fight happening is not a 100% given. There is said to be concern from the Alvarez camp about him being able to get down to 152. And word is Mayweather will not go through with the fight unless he makes 152. No matter what. So if this fight doesn't happen the blame clearly falls on Floyd Mayweather

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Yes, I'm sure he's much more concerned about the "good of boxing" than the good of his bank account Alvarez would've taken the fight at 147 for free if he had to right?

I do understand calling Floyd out if he did bash Pacquiao for the Cotto catch weight, but it's the same thing there. Cotto agreed to it, and we have no idea whether it played any role in the fight, it's not an excuse.

You don't think he deserves to be compensated for making the fight? Of course he does. Either way this fight happening is not a 100% given. There is said to be concern from the Alvarez camp about him being able to get down to 152. And word is Mayweather will not go through with the fight unless he makes 152. No matter what. So if this fight doesn't happen the blame clearly falls on Floyd Mayweather

Alvarez agreed to fight at 152, but if he can't make the weight with complete comfort it's all Floyds fault? How is that any different than if the fight were at 154 and Alvarez couldn't make that It's really stupid of Saul to have agreed to 152 is all that suggests, he is then to blame for wasting everyone’s time since he knew the deal beforehand. The guy was a welterweight not to long ago, and he's a very young man.

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Yes, I'm sure he's much more concerned about the "good of boxing" than the good of his bank account Alvarez would've taken the fight at 147 for free if he had to right?

I do understand calling Floyd out if he did bash Pacquiao for the Cotto catch weight, but it's the same thing there. Cotto agreed to it, and we have no idea whether it played any role in the fight, it's not an excuse.

You don't think he deserves to be compensated for making the fight? Of course he does. Either way this fight happening is not a 100% given. There is said to be concern from the Alvarez camp about him being able to get down to 152. And word is Mayweather will not go through with the fight unless he makes 152. No matter what. So if this fight doesn't happen the blame clearly falls on Floyd Mayweather

Alvarez agreed to fight at 152, but if he can't make the weight with complete comfort it's all Floyds fault? How is that any different than if the fight were at 154 and Alvarez couldn't make that It's really stupid of Saul to have agreed to 152 is all that suggests, he is then to blame for wasting everyone’s time since he knew the deal beforehand. The guy was a welterweight not to long ago, and he's a very young man.

It's Mayweather's fault for making the demand. Why even make the demand? The titles are 154 titles. Not 152. Why are you having a hard time understanding what a pussy move that is?

Alvarez last fought at welterweight over 3 years ago. And yes he is a young man. Which means he's still growing. It's not easy or healthy to drop in weight once you out grew that weight. Mayweather didn't come up at 147 or 154. So he can jump back and forth between divisions. But ask him to make 135 or 140. And I guarantee you it's a problem

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Absolutely it's Mayweather's fault for making the demand. It's also his fault that Canelo accepted it. Canelo should be given a pass on this because he's a popular Mexican fighter with a huge following. Why should he be held to an "agreed-upon" weight? It's not fair. It's Mayweather's damn fault. He MADE Canelo agree to 152. Probably secretly held a gun to the kid's head.

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Floyd Mayweather could demand Alvarez wear chainmail leggings and still make 152 pounds, if Alvarez agrees to it that's all there is to it! Whoever doesn't meet the contractual obligation is at fault. How is THAT hard to understand?

I don't think it's a "pussy" move, because Mayweather is a much smaller man and the catch weight makes sense. I do tend agree that Alvarez' belts shouldn't be on the line however, but that's a different argument and the integrity of the alphabet gangs are to blame for that.